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Old 04-21-2003, 04:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why Is Avril Lavigne So Damn Popular?

Really? What's the deal? She's got a few good songs, but the majority are utter crap. Now all I see is stupid teenage girls running around wearing ties and trying to dress like her.

Discuss. =\
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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teenage. girls. buying power.

Actually, it makes me a little happy cause she keeps her breasts in her shirt, and wears pants that fit.
Not that I mind looking at half-naked pop stars, but they do tend to be role models for young girls, and well, thats not right.

So maybe, in that context, not so bad a thing.
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ya, i agree with gov. Shes not as "fake" as all the other teen popstarts. Not to mention shes canadian
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Girls see that guys think she's hot, so they emulate her to attract guys. Easy as pie.

And in case you didn't get the memo, you can apparently be "punk" nowadays without actually <i>listening</i> to punk music. It's so neat.

I'm hoping the Tatu look catches on myself.
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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She is a poser. She IS as fake as the other teen popstarts she is just not the cliche fake. At any rate I don't find her any more anoying then Britney Spears but I still rather not listen to her.
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't think I've ever heard a single one of her songs...whatever.
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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don't know, don't care.... but i do find these infamous pics of her very amusing

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Old 04-21-2003, 04:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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lol, w3rd. She looks like a rat without her 4lbs of make-up >_<
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I will give Avril all the money in my bank account if she goes to Africa and hides out there for the rest of her life. This means no more music Avril.
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I will give Avril all the money in my bank account if she goes to Africa and hides out there for the rest of her life. This means no more music Avril.
I don't think she'd do it for $8
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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bleh made me laugh. thanks.
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Oh... my .... god ... I could have gone the rest of my life without seeing that. I had heard she was dog ugly without makeup but didn't want to ruin by actully seeing any pictures
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Never heard of her. I must be getting old.
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Old 04-21-2003, 05:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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what i find interesting is that when avril was asked to announce grammy nominees, she pronounced david bowie's name wrong, and later confessed that she didn't even know who he was. arggh. stupid teen pop people.
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Old 04-21-2003, 06:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Its just a new way of advertising the music, its a new 'package' that they put her in to make her look appealing.
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Old 04-21-2003, 06:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I personally think her music isn't all that bad. Her publicists suck though. They're marketing her as an image rather than a musician. I think they dropped all the BS, she could possibly have staying power. She has a good voice, but doesn' t utilize it good enough. She writes good songs that stick in your head. But like many teen pop idols, she probably won't last more than 4 years max and that's a shame.
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Old 04-21-2003, 06:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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mediocre music but I kinda like the sass a bad girl from CANADA for gods sake whats not to at least amuse you!
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Old 04-21-2003, 08:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Best Musicians From Canada: Tegan and Sara. Hands down.
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Old 04-21-2003, 09:34 PM   #19 (permalink)
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All I know is, she once tried to do a cover of Chop Suey (the system of a down song).

the result was perhaps the most painful 90 seconds of my life.

look for it on kazaa, if you have the balls. you won't be the same afterwards. *cringe*.
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Old 04-21-2003, 09:48 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Whoa, that is... bad. I'm going to jump out the window now.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Avril Lavigne... wow.
A friend of mine supposedly got her AIM screen name.

Funniest. Conversation. EVAR.

Her music is horrendous, although I must say I'd rather have my (hypothetical) daughter turn out like her than like Christina Aguilera...
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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there is one thing about avril that does bother me
i knew some chics that dressed like that way before her
and then she came around and they were called avril wanna bes so they kinda had to drop the style
and well they looked alot better wearing that stuff
so in one way she sorta ruined a fashion
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:22 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'd still do her like there was no tomorrow.

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Old 04-22-2003, 02:36 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I think she aint bad little like Alanis morissete bad spelling something like that
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Old 04-22-2003, 03:34 AM   #25 (permalink)
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what i find interesting is that when avril was asked to announce grammy nominees, she pronounced david bowie's name wrong, and later confessed that she didn't even know who he was. arggh. stupid teen pop people.
Wow, that's really...REALLY sad.

I've got to say though, as someone else said, if I had to choose between my (non-existant) daughter ending up like her or Christina Aguilera, it would be her hands-down. So, let's all just be happy there's something different out there other than Britney and Christina.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:03 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm not a big fan but at least she has some talent in the singing catagory which says lots more for her than Britney.Give it time though and the cycle will change and we may be bombarded with worse.Like Vanessa Carlton or something.
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:21 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I'd still do her like there was no tomorrow.

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It's Sk8er Boi. You have to retard yourself down a little more if you want to get with Avril.
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I like a couple of her songs ...and hey she has talent ...and she doesn't have to get practically naked for people to buy her album.
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Old 04-22-2003, 05:43 PM   #29 (permalink)
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whats that i hear in the distance? is that Macey Gray calling???
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Old 04-23-2003, 04:36 AM   #30 (permalink)
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It's Sk8er Boi. You have to retard yourself down a little more if you want to get with Avril.
Its Sk8r bo1 you just got to retard yourself a little more killeryoda....... and you call yourselves Avril Lasagne fans bleh.
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Old 04-23-2003, 08:12 AM   #31 (permalink)
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she has a really great voice, but thats about it. I cant stand posers. She really cant play guitar and just relies on the guitarist to play it all. theres more to being punk than dressing like one and skating.
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Old 04-23-2003, 08:16 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Heheh. You guys are funny.

Hey at least she co-wrote all of the songs off her album. That's more than most pop teen artists can say.

I think some of her songs are good like "Nobody's Fool" and "Things I'll Never Say." However, that being said, I've seen her perform "Complicated" live on some dumb MTV thing and she SUCKS live.

I think the appeal lies in her catchy tunes and of course, her "punk" image. While being a punk used to be ill-favored in the eyes of society, now it is widely accepted because of artists like her that soften the image's rough edges. But yeah, I think she's a poser. lol.
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Old 04-23-2003, 10:17 AM   #33 (permalink)
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There will always be someone worse.

Packaging a less than talented person is NOTHING new.

You have done a wonderful job of listing some current guilty parties...but it's been done.

John Travolta had a hit song.
So did Starsky...or was it Hutch?
Kristy McNichol recorded an album.

Am I showing my age?

It's been done and it will be done again...and again....and again.
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Old 04-23-2003, 07:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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she pronounced david bowie's name wrong, and later confessed that she didn't even know who he was. arggh. stupid teen pop people.
And Britney Spears didn't know who Yoko Ono was..... OK, BAD EXAMPLE because they're are the same scale. But hey, both are not even past the age of 23 + there teens for Christ's sake. You can't judge their intelligence yet.

Wanted to add: Not ALL of her songs are bad on her debut 'Let Go' album. I prefer: Complicated, I'm With You, Losing Grip, and Too Much To Ask - as my top choices. Its not many albums that I listen to every single song. When I dl a song (LIKE YOU DON'T), I only get singles. Great new example being "Can't Stop" by RHCPeppers. But, with 'Let Go' I listen to just about all of the songs.

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Old 04-23-2003, 07:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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id still hit it. wait...how old is she again?
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:45 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Its just a new way of advertising the music, its a new 'package' that they put her in to make her look appealing.
What do you mean 'new'?

People have been doing this for thousands of years.

In short, Avril Lavigne sells because:

1. She's quite attractive.

2. She has a very well-paid team of producers and hitmakers. They may say she writes her own songs, and I don't doubt that she does, but... she doesn't know shit about recording/mastering/etc. Her bosses have a lot of leeway as far as that's concerned.

3. She's a very carefully calculated product. After all the boybands and shit kinda fizzled out, record companies realized that the little girls who had bought all those CD's were now a few years older; they wanted something with a guise of 'edginess'.

4. The little girl can, in fact, sing. And her songs aren't the worst thing ever...

All this is IMHO, of course.

EDIT: I just thought of this.

I don't think I've ever once seen her claim to be punk. It's probably just more of the clever marketing, but... try not to dislike someone because they don't live up to the labels that you made for them.

-D.S.

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Old 04-24-2003, 10:02 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I don't think I've ever once seen her claim to be punk.

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You, sir, are correct. She is only punk because others label her as punk, she even say it herself.

I consider her genre to be more 'guitar driven' pop. I would like to say rock.... but I can't.
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Old 04-24-2003, 10:10 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Teen girls are adopting her attitude.
Trying to be a funny bitch when they actually are annoying.
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:30 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I was only mildly annoyed when I first heard her music. Another pop songstress that could easily be ignored.

I got pissed when she came out talking about punk and saying she didn't need to listen to anyone who came before her.

I wanted to drop her in a vat of broken glass when she mispronounced the name of one of the most influential voices in rock, David Bowie.

Hey, if you care enough about music that you make it your career, would you mind learning something about it before getting packaged up and sent out into the world? Tie wearing freak.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:28 PM   #40 (permalink)
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How did she pronounce the amazing Bowie's name? I'll kill her!!!

She didn't write any of her songs either, they were ripped apart and co-written by people she's never met before.
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