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Poison
Location: Canada
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Eminem is Infinite
I know some of the people who like rap have something against Eminem...But read this track he wrote...It's back from 96.
I think Eminem is one of the best rappers because he isn't rappin about how much money he's got and all this shit about bling bling. He just has a different flow. He Speaks It.. Let me know what you think Quote:
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The Funeral of Hearts
Location: Trapped inside my mind. . .
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No Eminem isn't rapping about his bling bling, he's rapping about killing his ex wife and his mother, which is just as pathetic as rapping about your bling bling or whatever. In my opinion all rap is horrible. It's all fast talking. Anyone could be a rapper.
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Poison
Location: Canada
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I love when people say that ![]() ![]() I know I am gonna be hearing alot of people say how they dislike Eminem...But I am asking Hip Hop fans that do not even like Eminem to give thier opinion on the lyrics of this track. Last edited by IC3; 08-29-2003 at 10:38 PM.. |
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Location: a little to the right
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DownwardSpiral- try free-style rapping in front of people, even just a friend. It's not that easy. In fact it's pretty hard to write a rap-type song, period. Now angsty mope-rock, there's some easy song writing.
![]() Don't get me wrong, rap isn't exactly art, it's more a talent like juggling. Eminem has some interesting ideas behind the hype and the marketing. In fact he's said on numerous occasions, like this song, that there's nothing really genuine being presented, only glitz and jokes- Quote:
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It's All About The Ass!!
Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!
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I'm an emcee myself (what you guys call "rappers") Eminem is very overrated. Sure to people that don't even listen to hip-hop he's something "different" and "original" and special but to a real hip-hop head they know none of those are true. Listen to Masta Ace, Kool Keith, Cage/Necro, etc. and you'll see where all of Eminem's style comes from.
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Poison
Location: Canada
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Damn man...Relax alittle, I am into the underground sound of Hip Hop...It blows away the main stream shit. Me saying that I think Eminem is one of the best MC's does not mean I know nothing...I like his style And what he ryhmes about..I have never liked any of his hit singles that get airplay. I list the Artists that I listen too Mobb Deep Zion I Raekwon GZA Method Man M.O.P. Xzibit Eminem Nas (Only his first couple CD's) Tash B Real The Roots Jurassic 5 I listen to other MC's but those are a few of the main ones that I listen too. The MC's that you listed I have heard of..Probably even heard there tracks..But own none of thier CD's. I am more into the Drum N Bass/Jungle scene now...I don't keep up with Hip Hop like I use too...But still listen and appreciate it. Even after I read that you pretty much told me that I don't know shit about Hip Hop because I listen to Eminem and other rappers that were at thier best in the Underground. I am still gonna say that I respect people like you who appreciate rap for what it is...it's not about money or fame..It's about doing something that you have a passion for...It's ashame what money has done to alot of MC's. I am on the same page as you, Your just deeper into it than I am. I would appreciate if you could give me some names of MC's that you think are keeping it real..I would like to check them out and maybe pick up some of thier stuff. Thanks. Last edited by IC3; 08-30-2003 at 12:11 AM.. |
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Crazy
Location: a little to the right
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Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!
please. Just because it's underground doesn't make it worth listening to. Most of it is underground because it belongs there. Buried. I think people judge talent by what moves them, they judge mainstream by what makes them dance and sing along. The way art (if you're going to use the term), in general, works is people make something new or interesting, sell a lot of it, then do more of the same as the new generation tries to improve or change the prevailing genres. In terms of rap, the sound from say, the Sugarhill Gang, evolves into Run DMC and Grand Master Flash, who were then replaced by groups like 2 Live Crew, NWA, and (yes) Salt-n-Pepa. the art becomes edgier, more confrontational, more realilistic, softer, more appealing, watered down. What's underground, becomes mainstream, and a new genre/style emerges as underground. And not everyone is going to make millions or sell millions, because the market cannot support the volume. If people "do it for the art and not for the cash & women" then why would they care about what's mainstream..
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Yeah Eminem is a good rapper, I don't real care for his image, and I doubt he does either, his freestyles are really good too
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not your typical god-fearing junkie
Location: State of Confusion
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IC3- His best stuff is his earlier stuff. I *highly* recommend finding his EP on p2p and downloading it. The tracks he raps on are amazing. Its great stuff.
Eminem is truly a great artist. I don't care what people say. He's got an image, he has a talent, he's got it made.
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Location: Springford, ON, Canada
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It's All About The Ass!!
Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!
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Man I didn't expect to run into a real hip-hop head here. My humblest apologies if I offended you IC3. Hip-hop is indeed my life. The only reason I might be more into it than you is because I'm an emcee as well and I do my own work and I know how hard it is to gain a following when you kick real rhyms. You wouldn't happen to emcee too would ya? If so thats fuckin awesome man. I too listen to all the emcees you've mentioned and Wu-Tang and The Roots are my two favorite hip-hop crews. See a person who listens to the hip-hop I like to listen to is such a rare find these days so I usually just assume that they don't and all they listen to is crap and they know absolute jack about it. Most of the time I'm correct and I'm like well he's really good and if you like him you'll probably like "so and so" and most times they do and start checkin em out. So I stand corrected here and mature enough to admitt my ignorance and the fact that I may have been an asshole. If ya wanna know some of the guys I listen to hit me up on the IM sometime. I think it's in my profile but if it's not you can just send me a private message n I'll let ya know and see if you listen to em or not. I agree a lot of them suck even in the underground but I don't pay them attention it's the ones that are good that are unknown whose situation vex's me. Yes not all underground is good for example Cash Money were underground just a few years ago. But anyways get at me yo. I also check out underground artists one www.ughh.com Cool forums n what not but most people just go to check out the singles section and buy CD's from there. It's got a lot of good stuff (and a lotta bad haha)
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Poison
Location: Canada
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I do not MC, But my cousin out in Kitchener Produces his own shit..He opened for Raekwon awhile back. He writes ryhmes and one of his boys makes the beats and ryhmes alittle also...They go by the name of Low Budget. I do sometimes scribble down shit that pops into my head, But It's nothing special...Actually just the other night I actually made progress..I usually get a couple lines down then give up. But the other night I just kept going, I am not even sure if I like it yet..But it's the furthest I have ever gotten writing ryhmes down on paper. Since you are actually in the game doin your own thing..I may PM you what I got on paper just to get your opinion...But remember, It's the first time I have ever put something together...So just be straight up with me on what you think about it. I use to be all about the West Coast back in the 90's..When Snoop & Dre were together on Snoops Doggystyle & Dre's The Chronic..Those 2 albums are Classics in my books...But the West Coast sound started to change, It seemed like it lost that Laid back groovy Funky sound. I started checkin out the sound that was coming out of the East and was actually very impressed with it...I liked it cause it was more of an East Coast Stomp kind of sound...Hard Hitting beats, with MC's keeping shit real...I forget what my first album was that I bought that was coming out of the East Coast..Think it might have been The Wu's 36 Chambers..That's also a classic. I don't like much from the south...It seems like alot of the Money Hungry MC's are from the south. Music is like sports..ya the money is good, But if you love what you do then the money shouldn't matter...Do for the love you have for the music not the money. Make money but don't let the money make you So ya...I will try to PM you that shit I got on paper...i am just looking for an honest opinion that's all. feel free to PM..Or we can just turn this thread into the Official Hip Hop thread ![]() Couple more MC's I didn't mention Gravediggers Dead prez WC and the Madd Circle Ice Cube Eightball Redman Smif N Wesson Scarface I know there is more..Just can't think of them all when you need to. Last edited by IC3; 08-30-2003 at 12:27 PM.. |
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It's All About The Ass!!
Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!
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Sounds groovy to me man. I would conider those albums classic too. Some of the south is good but not all of it. I like Outkast
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Poison
Location: Canada
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That's what I have noticed with what I have got so far..i need to expand my Vocab more...That's what I am working on right now, trying to switch things around to use more words.
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Location: New Mexico
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Eminem is good, but so are a lot of rappers out there. Atmosphere and Anticon are my favorites. Deltron 3030 (more hip/hop) is also really cool. I cant stand rappers like Ludacris and all them but there is good stuff out there, you just gotta find it.
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I think Eminem is a great writer and his songs are very catchy, and I also applaud him for taking himself to the top of the pop world..but I do not know if I would consider him a musician, so to speak
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Location: Florida
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Eminem has some insane lyrics no doubt. He's not my favorite but I'll admit he's good. No one mentioned Jedi Mind Tricks, so I'll suggest you should DL a few of their songs, see how you like em.
Just to name a few: I Against I, Muerte, Nada Cambia, Sacrifice, Trinity, The Executioner's Dream. DL some of those, or others that seem to interest you and see how you like em. ![]()
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Tired
Location: Florida
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I'm all rap.
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It's All About The Ass!!
Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!
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I'm nearly everything
Asta!!
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Please touch this.
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Location: Manhattan
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jotting down rhymes is easy
writing in meter is not enimem just puts two words together that rhyme he's no shakespeare
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Location: Within the Woods
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I'm not known to like hip hop/rap that much, but I actually like Eminem. I don't agree with a lot of his lyrics though.
![]() I think he's good and I've actually bought his albums. I like the "feelings" in it. Take, for example, "Kim". The feeling I get from it is that he's desperate and that he loves her and that he can't handle that shit anymore. Quote:
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Poison
Location: Canada
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That's something that has always baffled me...Everybody I talk to that doesn't like rap says they can't understand what they are saying...If I buy a CD as soon as I pop it in..I can understand everything, It just takes a little time before I can actually remember the lyrics and Say them myself.
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Rap involves rhythem. dont't just judge Eminem for his pop songs(my name is/without me), listen to some of his mixtape songs and songs with meaning like "The Way I Am" or "Bump Heads"
Pop rappers like "new" 50 Cent, Nelly, P.Diddy and St Lunatics should be dissed because, they are rappers who just rhyme words togather. |
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Location: Canada
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