Sun Tzu

While its certainly not talking out of an ass to demand proof for anything isnt it a little arrogant for humanity to think it is the only intelligent life in the universe if not the ONLY life. How long have we been around? How long ago was the Big Bang? How big is the KNOWN universe? Hell, how many stars does our own Milky Way have?

You give nothing to statistical probability because you have not seen something with your own eyes, and there is nothing wrong with that. There would have been nothing wrong with anyone that thought splitting an atom was impossible.

Videos and photographs fall under reasonable scrutiny because Adobe Photoshop, Premiere, and After Effects are reality. Any video someone submits, even NASA footage you deem as celestial anomalies could have been altered. There is no way to be sure that NASA footage placed on youtube wasn’t altered by someone. Even when astronauts come forward, Dementia could be the true culprit. It’s when situations like Bob Lazar happen that should raise an eyebrow. One can discount his statements, and him passing polygraph tests. People say things that are complete bullshit and even though the entire law force of the US is based on passing a polygraph test- they are not admissible in court and can be beaten. However with Lazar’s case and others like him records show the government is covering something up. His detailed explanation of the technology learned from back engineering (so he says) provides what seems to be a feasible manner to address the distance obstacle you mentioned in the past. Even with our most advanced propulsion systems or ones on the drawing board the point you being up of traveling in a linear way would make the time span impossible for beings that had life spans such as ours.

With a small formulation we were able to do the impossible- split the atom. Present calculations now show that stars displace time/space much like a boat displaces water. Element 115 was thought to be a bullshit fable of Lazar’s, now they have been able to produce it. (though not the same grade)

In the end aside from visual proof- valid questions are the only other aspect of critical thought aren’t they? Just because we don’t have a certain creature classified right now, it does not mean one is still left undiscovered 3 miles below the ocean surface. With the valid questions some of them can be a doubled ended logic, cant they?

“If fighter jets are not scrambled to engage an object that would be seen on radar then why is there any reason to assume they a UFO would be allowed to move in controlled airspace.”

“If there are secret military aircraft- then they are aircraft the government wants to keep a secret, why fly over heavy populated areas?”
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When I was in the military I had alot of experience with flares. Flares from aircraft, flares shot from artillery, flares ignited by ground infantry. Eventually they burn out. They may have different characteristics once in the air as far as there movement, but they are slight. One aspect they all share whether shuted or not- they fall. They dont stay in formation and travel in a linear fashion.

On a personal note, and I say that because my word really doesnt mean much if anything- and I know that- but I saw it directly over my area. ALong with about 30 others. Not to mention other areas it flew over. Like I said it was miltary- obviously. Something that big wouldnt fly around a major city without being challenge (I assume) What that also tells me the US has flight technology generations beyond anything you are seeing now or in theory. Or it was just a really, really, big V shaped blimp with some kind of anti-radar mirage type device on it underpart.

That was the first time they were sited. I didnt see the second time, but they were saying the same the about the first sighting and I know they werent flares. Cognitech's analysis meets Operation Snowbird delayed explanation. It doesnt matter that witnesses saw the same "flares" across the state and in Neveda. For one witnesses arent a credible source "thank god for modern tech huh" because the government answer is always going to be the official accepted- and rightly so. Just one thing you may find interesting examine the map that OSB was taking place. Calculate the percentage of flares that fail (delayed) with the vegitation that is in Arizona at that time of year and determine if the risk would have been allowed- ofcourse, strangley no AZ bases even knew an Airwing from the Maryland National Guard of all places was visiting and doing exercises and intentionally using phos flares over the dry AZ desert. It was not until weeks later it was "cleared up". I suppose if its possible for the CIA and FBI to have communication errors this is possible. A very impractical and dangerous place and time of year to be doing such exersises.

In the end it really is one of those things that has to be seen for one's self. I dont believe in ghosts, but I know people that have sworn to have seen them and wont be persuaded in any other direction. The footage analysis you are refering to shows a straightforward explanation that brings clarity to the sighting. So I dont see it as being unreasonable to look at the evidence as valid.

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