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Old 01-15-2009, 05:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Dyatlov Pass Incident

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The Dyatlov Pass incident refers to an event that resulted in the deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural mountains. The incident happened on the night of February 2, 1959 on the east shoulder of the mountain Kholat Syakhl (Холат Сяхл) (a Mansi name, meaning Mountain of the Dead). The mountain pass where the incident occurred has been named Dyatlov Pass (Перевал Дятлова) after the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov (Игорь Дятлов).

The mysterious circumstances and subsequent investigations of the hikers' deaths have inspired much speculation. Investigations of the deaths suggest that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot in heavy snow; while the corpses show no signs of struggle, one victim had a fractured skull, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue. According to sources, the victims' clothing contained high levels of radiation - though this was likely added at a later date, since no reference is made to it in contemporary documentation and only in later documents. Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths, barring entry to the area for years thereafter. The causes of the accident remain unclear.
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Journalists reporting on the available parts of the inquest files claim that it states:

* Six of the group members died of hypothermia and three of fatal injuries.
* There were no indications of other people nearby apart from the nine travellers on Kholat Syakhl, nor anyone in the surrounding areas.
* The tent had been ripped open from within.
* The victims had died 6 to 8 hours after their last meal.
* Traces from the camp showed that all group members (including those who were found injured) left the camp of their own accord, by foot.
* One doctor investigating the case suggested that the fatal injuries of the three bodies could not have been caused by another human being, owing to the extreme force to which they had been subjected.[1]
* Forensic radiation tests had shown high doses of radioactive contamination on the clothes of a few victims.[1]

The final verdict was that the group members all died because of an "unknown compelling force". The inquest ceased officially in May 1959 due to the "absence of a guilty party". The files were sent to a secret archive, and the photocopies of the case became available only in the 1990s, with some parts missing
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Some researchers point out the following facts which were missed, perhaps ignored, by officials:

* After the funerals, relatives of the deceased claimed that the skin of the victims had a strange orange tan and were completely grey haired.[1]
* A former investigating officer said, in a private interview, that his dosimeter had shown a high radiation level on Kholat Syakhl, and that this was the reason for the radiation found on the bodies. However, the source of the contamination was not found.
* Another group of hikers (about 50 kilometers south of the accident) reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the night sky to the north (likely in the direction of Kholat Syakhl) at the same date as the accident happened. Similar "spheres" were observed in Ivdel and adjacent areas continually during the period of February to March 1959, by various independent witnesses (including the meteorology service and the military).
* Some reconstructions of the victims' behavior suggest that they were blinded. The rescue team had seen that the victims broke damp and thick pine branches for the fire, even though there was good dry brushwood around.
* Some reports suggested that much scrap metal was located in the area, leading to speculation that the military had utilized the area secretly and might be engaged in a cover-up.
UFOs? Secret Russian military operation? Something else? What really gets me with this story is that the people involved actually survived the initial disturbance and went on to leave their tents by foot (barefoot) into the snow, tried to create campfires by burning whatever that they could get their hands on while there was wood that was available nearby that they just didn't use, suggesting that they were blind. And, "One doctor investigating the case suggested that the fatal injuries of the three bodies could not have been caused by another human being, owing to the extreme force to which they had been subjected." This, coupled with the orange tint suggests something supernatural.

Also... what happened to one of the girls tongues?

Moar links if you want them:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes022708.DTL
http://www.dbskeptic.com/2008/03/08/...pelling-force/
http://infodjatlov.narod.ru/fg4/index.htm
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The product of Chernobyl radiation mutation? A bear-wolverine-human-thing? The movie, Prophecy, come to life... ?



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Old 01-15-2009, 08:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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this happened in 1959.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Are we sure what was reported was accurate and not hyped up? Wiki aint too reliable.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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this happened in 1959.
Ah. Missed that.



Well, scratch what I said about "Chernobyl" and replace it with "atomic bomb testing".
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It sounds like an experimental weapon or 'dirty bomb' may be to blame. There would be a reason for Russia to keep it a secret if they were testing weapons on their own people. The actual bomb may not have killed them though, it could be radiation poisoning or a (chemical/bio weapon too) and going crazy because of it's effect on the brain.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I would go with a-bomb tests as well. Who knows what was happening in the hinterland of the USSR back then?
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If any one is interested in it there's a decent article on it in this months Fortean Times.
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I remember seeing something about this on the Discovery channel once. I don't know what to believe, but military testing sounds the most feasible.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Given how many times the USSR, USA and UK (amongst others) have exposed their own people to insane risks in the name of science and military advancement, not a surprise.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This is a great case of taking a simple and straightforward event, shrouding it in the secrecy surrounding everything in the USSR that required an official report, and the story collecting additional "facts" like a massive snowball rolling down a hill and picking up kids sledding.
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UFOs? Secret Russian military operation? Something else? What really gets me with this story is that the people involved actually survived the initial disturbance and went on to leave their tents by foot (barefoot) into the snow, tried to create campfires by burning whatever that they could get their hands on while there was wood that was available nearby that they just didn't use, suggesting that they were blind. And, "One doctor investigating the case suggested that the fatal injuries of the three bodies could not have been caused by another human being, owing to the extreme force to which they had been subjected." This, coupled with the orange tint suggests something supernatural.

Also... what happened to one of the girls tongues?
-If they were blind and tanned, it would probably be sunburn and snowblindness. Snow reflects a lot of UV back up. Skiers wear sunscreen for a reason.

-Leaving the tents barefoot and improperly clothed is likely due to paradoxical undressing. "extreme force to which they had been subjected ..." like an avalance?

-Missing toungue? Wild animals are likely to go after exposed soft tissue. She also could have bitten it off in an avalanche.

-If the added accounts of radiation are true, it can be explained by thorium in the gas mantles of their lanterns.

-"some reconstructions" and "some reports" are categories that do not include the official report. I'm surprised that the obsessive Wikipedia nerds haven't tagged it for weasel words. If they were blind, again, this is due to snowblindness. If there was a lot of metal around, then a crashed aircraft could have triggered an avalanche.
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