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tootle · 10-07-2004, 06:44 PM

This was in a matter of about 45-60 seconds. I was driving at night from Cali to visit my friend in the air force stationed in Tuscan, Arizona. When I was about 60-50 miles from Phoenix, there was two blinking blue lights that went up about a 75 degree angle straight from the desert as I was driving on highway 15 (If I remember correctly). It went up about 2-3 football fields worth and then stopped. At this time, I was like wtf? What in god's name is that? At this time, I had the windows down and turned off my music because I was trying to hear any sounds but Nothing... no sound at all. I was around 300-400 feet away from it too. If it was any kind of harrier-like plane, it would have been a loud sound coming from the engine. I know you all might be saying.. yea right but I've been on military facilities and heard all different kinds of planes. NEVER in my life have seen something like this.

When the two blue light stopped in midair, it changed to white solid lights and then took off horizontally as it was moving like a jet but with no sound and flying low to the ground.. about 100 feet from the ground.

Jimellow · 10-07-2004, 07:08 PM

Interesting.. I'll admit I'm skeptical, but if you saw it and were sober, I guess I'll take your word for it..

Was this flying object in the vicinity of the air force base, or not really? How close were you to the base when you saw this? Could you see below it, where it would have taken off from, or was it too dark?

amonkie · 10-07-2004, 08:51 PM

and it's Tucson, unfornately not in any way associated with Tuscany

Could the lights have been from a hobby rocket or something? Without knowing exactly where you were outside Phoenix, I can't really pinpoint what you might have seen. Luke Air Force base is out that way, so unless it was a jet that was REALLY far away, i don't have much to tell ya.

MSD · 10-07-2004, 10:22 PM

Air force bases use night as a convenient cover for test flights. What you saw could very well have been a stealth helicopter prototype test. From what I've heard, the new Comanche models give off less than half the noise of an Apache and can snap turn in less than 5 seconds. You may have seen marker lights at first, then seen spotlights or searchlights being utilized for low altitude test flights. In a remote area, stealth wouldn't be as neessary, so the lights could have been used for visibility of ground landmarks, or to allow for visual tracking from the ground.

I'd say that you're one of the lucky few civilians who has observed a test of the Commanche before it is officially put into use. After all, the stealth fighters/bombers were used in military operations before being publicly acknowledged.

RonRyan85 · 10-10-2004, 06:12 PM

I feel that there are new types of aircraft being tested all the time at night
by the company test pilots and later by Air Force/CIA/NRA test pilots. Many
black projects exist for years before the public learns of them. Radio talk
show ART BELL has spoken many times of when he and his wife saw a big
black triangle thing fly over their house one night: silent and moving so slow
that he felt it was not really flying .....sort of floating by. Antigravity? perhaps
this might be the answer. One writer of a book about Energy from Zero Point
or energy from the vacuum thinks the U.S. Air Force's new flying wing bomber
,the B2?? may use a form of :"antigravity" in the wings /high voltage thingy?
This because he feels the B2 is too heavy using its 2 jet engines alone and
needs the antigravity device to reduce the weight some. (Perhaps a less costly
way would be to install more powerful jet engines?)

I do think some lights at night might be aliens from another planet but I need
to see them myself or get some really good photographs of them before I am
sure. I have a note book full of old newspaper and magazine pictures showing
UFO/Flying Saucers but none seem very real to me. Some say the Air Force is
faking a lot of this to hide the fact that they are testing new stuff and welcome
the reports of aliens to blame the sightings on visitors from Outer Space.

Then there are reports of BIG FOOT ;(8 foot high, half man-half Ape creatures),
Crop Circles: mysterious patterns formed overnight in UK. grainfields and the old
reports by some who claim they were abducted by short grey beings with big
black eyes and those reports of cows killed and their sex organs and their blood
being removed. Any thoughts about them?

HeLLVieW96 · 10-10-2004, 08:11 PM

i live in Tucson, but i have yet to see anything weird like that, i guess have somthing to look out for late at night.. just as long as im sober : )

bonehed1 · 10-11-2004, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

Air force bases use night as a convenient cover for test flights. What you saw could very well have been a stealth helicopter prototype test. From what I've heard, the new Comanche models give off less than half the noise of an Apache and can snap turn in less than 5 seconds. You may have seen marker lights at first, then seen spotlights or searchlights being utilized for low altitude test flights. In a remote area, stealth wouldn't be as neessary, so the lights could have been used for visibility of ground landmarks, or to allow for visual tracking from the ground.

I'd say that you're one of the lucky few civilians who has observed a test of the Commanche before it is officially put into use. After all, the stealth fighters/bombers were used in military operations before being publicly acknowledged.

I think you did see what he describes as the Commanche...It is suppose to be one of the best if not the best heli they have made and from what you describe sounds like it was a test of its maneuvering capabilities and simply a test. I am pretty sure you weren't drunk when you saw this so i will have to agree with you that you saw something but I think it was the Commanche but I could be wrong aswell.

ManWithAPlan · 10-11-2004, 11:08 AM

physically impossible unless its engines were running at 1 rpm. the only way it could have been hovering at relatively low rpm would be if it had an anti-gravitational booster holding it up which is not possible since the earth isn't magnetically charged in one polarity

10-07-2004, 06:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
tootle Upright	weird crap goin on in Arizona This was in a matter of about 45-60 seconds. I was driving at night from Cali to visit my friend in the air force stationed in Tuscan, Arizona. When I was about 60-50 miles from Phoenix, there was two blinking blue lights that went up about a 75 degree angle straight from the desert as I was driving on highway 15 (If I remember correctly). It went up about 2-3 football fields worth and then stopped. At this time, I was like wtf? What in god's name is that? At this time, I had the windows down and turned off my music because I was trying to hear any sounds but Nothing... no sound at all. I was around 300-400 feet away from it too. If it was any kind of harrier-like plane, it would have been a loud sound coming from the engine. I know you all might be saying.. yea right but I've been on military facilities and heard all different kinds of planes. NEVER in my life have seen something like this. When the two blue light stopped in midair, it changed to white solid lights and then took off horizontally as it was moving like a jet but with no sound and flying low to the ground.. about 100 feet from the ground.

10-07-2004, 08:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	and it's Tucson, unfornately not in any way associated with Tuscany Could the lights have been from a hobby rocket or something? Without knowing exactly where you were outside Phoenix, I can't really pinpoint what you might have seen. Luke Air Force base is out that way, so unless it was a jet that was REALLY far away, i don't have much to tell ya. __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

10-11-2004, 11:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
ManWithAPlan Addict Location: M[ass]achusetts	physically impossible unless its engines were running at 1 rpm. the only way it could have been hovering at relatively low rpm would be if it had an anti-gravitational booster holding it up which is not possible since the earth isn't magnetically charged in one polarity __________________ In the end we are but wisps

10-07-2004, 07:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jimellow Junkie	Interesting.. I'll admit I'm skeptical, but if you saw it and were sober, I guess I'll take your word for it.. Was this flying object in the vicinity of the air force base, or not really? How close were you to the base when you saw this? Could you see below it, where it would have taken off from, or was it too dark?

10-07-2004, 10:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Air force bases use night as a convenient cover for test flights. What you saw could very well have been a stealth helicopter prototype test. From what I've heard, the new Comanche models give off less than half the noise of an Apache and can snap turn in less than 5 seconds. You may have seen marker lights at first, then seen spotlights or searchlights being utilized for low altitude test flights. In a remote area, stealth wouldn't be as neessary, so the lights could have been used for visibility of ground landmarks, or to allow for visual tracking from the ground. I'd say that you're one of the lucky few civilians who has observed a test of the Commanche before it is officially put into use. After all, the stealth fighters/bombers were used in military operations before being publicly acknowledged.

10-10-2004, 06:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
RonRyan85 Insane Location: Lone Star State,USA	I feel that there are new types of aircraft being tested all the time at night by the company test pilots and later by Air Force/CIA/NRA test pilots. Many black projects exist for years before the public learns of them. Radio talk show ART BELL has spoken many times of when he and his wife saw a big black triangle thing fly over their house one night: silent and moving so slow that he felt it was not really flying .....sort of floating by. Antigravity? perhaps this might be the answer. One writer of a book about Energy from Zero Point or energy from the vacuum thinks the U.S. Air Force's new flying wing bomber ,the B2?? may use a form of :"antigravity" in the wings /high voltage thingy? This because he feels the B2 is too heavy using its 2 jet engines alone and needs the antigravity device to reduce the weight some. (Perhaps a less costly way would be to install more powerful jet engines?) I do think some lights at night might be aliens from another planet but I need to see them myself or get some really good photographs of them before I am sure. I have a note book full of old newspaper and magazine pictures showing UFO/Flying Saucers but none seem very real to me. Some say the Air Force is faking a lot of this to hide the fact that they are testing new stuff and welcome the reports of aliens to blame the sightings on visitors from Outer Space. Then there are reports of BIG FOOT ;(8 foot high, half man-half Ape creatures), Crop Circles: mysterious patterns formed overnight in UK. grainfields and the old reports by some who claim they were abducted by short grey beings with big black eyes and those reports of cows killed and their sex organs and their blood being removed. Any thoughts about them?

10-10-2004, 08:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
HeLLVieW96 Tilted Location: TucsoN , ARizonA	i live in Tucson, but i have yet to see anything weird like that, i guess have somthing to look out for late at night.. just as long as im sober : )