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Old 12-02-2007, 10:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Science, technology and repercussions

I saw a piece of Bourne Ultimatum last night where Jason's fingerprints were planted to implicate him.

This had me thinking about one of my daughters, who saves her first hair & fingernail cuttings in a place she calls her "DNA Box". Maybe I've read and viewed too many mysteries and CSI episodes.

I'd be intrigued to hear thoughts on this:

Isn't there going to come a day in the near future when criminals and/or politicians purchase DNA to leave at crime scenes, or to free guilty parties from prison? How can this be circumvented, prevented, rectified? Or can it?
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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One can already do this, actually. Finger prints, saliva, hair, etc. can all be planted at the scene. It's how people are currently framed. It can be prevented by uncircumstantial evidence.
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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She saves her hair and fingernail cuttings...?

I hope I am never in a position where someone will root through my trash for fingernail clippings, or spray some glue on my glass at a bar to take a fingerprint, or pluck some hair while I am on a bus.

Technology always has two sides to it. Technology itself is not bad, only the people that use it.
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Are we talking about synthetic DNA here, or a DNA black market?
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It can be prevented by uncircumstantial evidence.
DNA is supposed to be the end all of uncircumstantial evidence. *shrug*

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She saves her hair and fingernail cuttings...?
Moms save that first baby lock of hair, ya know? Well, she was upset that I didn't want to keep her hair from subsequent cuts and decided to keep it for herself.

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Are we talking about synthetic DNA here, or a DNA black market?
Good question.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Imagine, if you will, a world with the possibility of synthetic DNA and having yours kept not only "on file" but "in storage."
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Moms save that first baby lock of hair, ya know? Well, she was upset that I didn't want to keep her hair from subsequent cuts and decided to keep it for herself.
Oh... kay...! Jeeze, I was thinking... "What...?" Like that. Makes more sense.

And synthetic DNA is far off from humans... I hope. http://www.dna20.com/

EDIT: You mean to tell me The Man doesn't keep samples of my blood somewhere to keep up to date on me... take that as serious or sarcastic, so far I haven't become famous/paranoid enough to worry even if someone does.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Want to get away with a murder?

Get a vial of someone elses raw blood, leave some at crime scene.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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You mean to tell me The Man doesn't keep samples of my blood somewhere to keep up to date on me... take that as serious or sarcastic, so far I haven't become famous/paranoid enough to worry even if someone does.
Don't tell anyone, but I hear dentists are required by some unnamed international government organization to "unknowingly extract" DNA samples from every one of their patients to place on file and in storage, as I had mentioned.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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@ Baraka_Guru:
I always knew Ustwo was an agent of the system, but that just might be the tip of the iceberg. I think you and I need to go back to Paranoia now...
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