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StoneyBaby · 07-01-2003, 09:19 PM

Who's read the book? Furthermore...do you believe in an intrinsic link between the scientific world and the world of spirituality, or do you think they are separate?

one...two...three...go!

CSflim · 07-02-2003, 11:56 AM

They are definately seperate. One exists, the other doesn't!

Fred Gassit · 07-02-2003, 03:01 PM

Ahhh you see, but that's where your wrong. How can we know that there are any scientific truths of anything when everything that is "scientific" was invented by the SUBJECTIVE interpretations of the brains of the inventors. To me, it's all philosophical, only with people always trying to find the answers to all the questions. Ultimately, there are no answers. The real bummer is that society forces us to conform to "the norm" in order to put food on the table. The only free thinkers in this world do it after they punch out.

duckznutz · 07-02-2003, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by StoneyBaby
do you believe in an intrinsic link between the scientific world and the world of spirituality, or do you think they are separate?

one...two...three...go!

I guess you have read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? I shall quote : -

"Precision instruments are designed to acheive an idea . . . . he looks at the motorcycle and just sees steel in various shapes, and he has negative feelings about these steel shapes and turns off the whole thing. I look at these shapes of steel now and seeideas . He thinks I am working on parts . but I am working on concepts . . .

StoneyBaby · 07-02-2003, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by duckznutz
I guess you have read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? I shall quote : -

"Precision instruments are designed to acheive an idea . . . . he looks at the motorcycle and just sees steel in various shapes, and he has negative feelings about these steel shapes and turns off the whole thing. I look at these shapes of steel now and seeideas . He thinks I am working on parts . but I am working on concepts . . .

Good one! Yes, I have read that book, but it's been awhile. I suppose that some of the concepts have echoed in my mind. I really need to reread that book. Thanks for the reminder.

rogue49 · 07-03-2003, 05:01 AM

While Physics is trying to define or model the physical world...or "how".
Philosophies try figure out "why" of it all.

In physics with have the acknowledgement that while we are defining everything separately
we figure out after awhile it all really works together.
Zen is just saying "of course", it's supposed to work together.

anti fishstick · 07-03-2003, 06:25 PM

i believe the two work together, or can work together. but some hardcore scientists are close-minded to things outside their realm of knowledge or comfort zone. the ability to think and look 'outside of the box' generally makes people uncomfortable. they stick with what they know, or don't know.

marshall26 · 07-03-2003, 11:20 PM

i was doing a lot of research about this last night on a great site called www.fusionanomaly.net and it was really fascinating, it was like i finally found an idea of spirituality that makes sense to me. you know about the omega point and universal consciousness and stuff?

07-01-2003, 09:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
StoneyBaby Upright Location: cali stylin'	the Zen of Physics Who's read the book? Furthermore...do you believe in an intrinsic link between the scientific world and the world of spirituality, or do you think they are separate? one...two...three...go! __________________ along the way, I close my eyes...I lost where I was going

07-02-2003, 11:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	They are definately seperate. One exists, the other doesn't! __________________

07-02-2003, 03:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Fred Gassit Upright Location: Wisconsin	Ahhh you see, but that's where your wrong. How can we know that there are any scientific truths of anything when everything that is "scientific" was invented by the SUBJECTIVE interpretations of the brains of the inventors. To me, it's all philosophical, only with people always trying to find the answers to all the questions. Ultimately, there are no answers. The real bummer is that society forces us to conform to "the norm" in order to put food on the table. The only free thinkers in this world do it after they punch out. __________________ The dogs philosophy of life: If you cant eat it, fuck it. If you cant fuck it, piss on it.

07-03-2003, 06:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
anti fishstick Post-modernism meets Individualism AKA the Clash Location: oregon	i believe the two work together, or can work together. but some hardcore scientists are close-minded to things outside their realm of knowledge or comfort zone. the ability to think and look 'outside of the box' generally makes people uncomfortable. they stick with what they know, or don't know. __________________ And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. ~Anais Nin

07-03-2003, 05:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
rogue49 Loser	While Physics is trying to define or model the physical world...or "how". Philosophies try figure out "why" of it all. In physics with have the acknowledgement that while we are defining everything separately we figure out after awhile it all really works together. Zen is just saying "of course", it's supposed to work together.

07-03-2003, 11:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
marshall26 Banned Location: elevated	i was doing a lot of research about this last night on a great site called www.fusionanomaly.net and it was really fascinating, it was like i finally found an idea of spirituality that makes sense to me. you know about the omega point and universal consciousness and stuff?