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Old 07-05-2003, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)

What are your (you being any reader if this message) thoughts on love? Let's hear 'em.
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Old 07-05-2003, 09:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Love

Originally posted by noahfor
What are your (you being any reader if this message) thoughts on love? Let's hear 'em.
It's a mass illusion; there's no such thing, and if you put any faith in it, you'll be devastatingly disappointed.
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Old 07-05-2003, 11:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Love is no different, chemically, from eating large quantities of chocolate.
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Old 07-05-2003, 11:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Love is what you perceive it to be.
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Old 07-05-2003, 11:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally posted by ninety09
Love is no different, chemically, from eating large quantities of chocolate.
It may not be different chemically, but love makes me fart; chocolate doesn't.
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I'd do it all over you."
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Old 07-05-2003, 11:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally posted by *Nikki*
Love is what you perceive it to be.
What love does to you colors your perception of it; simplistic statments about a very complicated human emotion are generally not too helpful. Past experience tells me that love is pure bullshit.
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I'd do it all over you."
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Old 07-05-2003, 12:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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love is like marshmallows; fluffy soft and sugary sweet.
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Old 07-05-2003, 02:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
Here is some stuff I wrote on another board about it. I can't remember all I said.

well i think its more than a feeling, "youre" in love when a person/people is/are "your" world sort of, i have more to say, but its too complicated, whatever, i think the difference between love and in love, is that when "you" are in love "you" can have a sexual relationship with the person, but when "you" just love somebody "you" can't, i put the word you in quotes because it was grammitcally incorrect to use that word in those instances, but i feel too dorky using another word, i learned that

not too complicated but i cant explain my ideas well enough, its about some generally unnoticed feelings that people have

yea right mans, im in love, im also in manic mode, my meds just kicked in after three weeks, im so happy i could cry, this chick is awesome, best person ive ever met, and the thing is ive known her for a while and never thought too much of her, and now that i know her i know she is just great, its like we are in our own world when im with her, and that bullshit about love not being able to exist without hate, thats just shit, even if all we knew was love we could still appreciate it, i dont know if she loves me and i dont care

another day passes by, another chance at love remains unrequited

did i get those right, sorta pertainent

hasnt anyone here experienced love, i love my parents,and i dont mean some built in feeling, i mean they are my world, the background feel that is me is them, my dad points out hawks on light posts because they make him feel good, noone is telling him that he should, love appreciation and feeling, a microcosm of love, we exist

i have had very strong crushes, love is more than a feeling like i said earlier, its a conscious thing, you can decide for yourself if you are in love, you dont need your brain to tell you, if you want to be in love be in love, the feelings help though, its like this, can any of you feel who you are, just feel it, feel your life, feel what exostence and life is to you, well when a person affect that feeling you are in love, i dont mean gives you a certain feeling, i mean what i said
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Old 07-05-2003, 02:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
I need to receive it,
and I need to give it.

Love is that certain something that says to a person...
I care about you,
I will be there for you as a friend,
And there is something about you that intensely attracts me.

The trick is that you have to find that individual that will extend the same feelings towards you at the same time,
and also hopefully the situation allows you both to explore those feelings.

Love is one thing,
continuing mutual love is another.

Love is easy,
continuing mutual love is work.

I am looking for continuous mutual love these days.
And despite what pain I have had before.
It is something I need to have & to give to another.
I will not betray those feelings.

The passion
The caring
The connection
I will not deny it.
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Old 07-05-2003, 07:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
Love is just a chemical raction in your brain.

However, it is a plesent one
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Old 07-05-2003, 10:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Love

Originally posted by bullgoose
It's a mass illusion; there's no such thing, and if you put any faith in it, you'll be devastatingly disappointed.
Best explanation EVER!
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Old 07-06-2003, 08:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
I think most of you are incorrect, but I may be incorrect about that. Those of you who say that love doesn't exist are just taking the easy cliched way out. Those of you who say its just a chemical reaction need to do a little more thinking. Yes, a feeling is just a "chemical reaction" in the brain, but maybe it's more than just a feeling. How can one feel a chemical reaction? If you just felt that feeling with nothing to feel it about would you be in love? A thought is just a "chemical reaction" but that fact doesn't take away from its weight.
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Old 07-06-2003, 07:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
love is a grand thing if found. most people confuse love with lust and can't figure out why their marrige fails. if you find it, true love is eternal
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Old 07-07-2003, 06:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Summing up love to be a mere chemical imbalance is a dangerous thing to do. By direct implication, that means that other emotions are simply chemical imbalances as well. And, since the word 'imbalance' has been used, this implies that emotions are also a negative thing, that in order to be balanced, we need to supress emotion. If we take that our brain has 3 main uses, logical thought, survival (heart/motion/bladder control etc) and emotional control, then in order to be balanced, or, a more perfect human, we need to eliminate emotion.

So in a more perfect human, the brain would have 2 purposes, control of our organs to keep living and logical thought. And since most of the brain functions that are in charge of the continued surviving stuff (medulla oblongata I believe, that is a damned cool word) is not under our concious control, this means we are left with one real aspect of our brain that is useful. Logical thought, and that basically means we're just meat computers.

Of course, to go much further requires getting rather serious into the mind/body problem which is hardly a trivial topic...

On to the topic at hand : rodimus, agree whole heartedly. rogue49, that's one of the more eloquent summaries I've read in a while.

Love for me? Love is friendship, and like friendship there are a wide varieties of love. The trick is to find the person who would be your best friend, and hook up with them
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Old 07-07-2003, 12:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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"Love is not what makes the world go round...it is what makes the ride worthwhile."
I think that quote says it all.
It is what we all (even if we say we don't) strive for. Some find it...some don't....some make do with what they have....others search forever.
It can be grand, sad, uplifting, gut-wrenching. It can be the best you've ever had and the worst you've ever felt.
It is the highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows.
Ah...sweet amore! (insert bittersweet laugh here)
But....still wouldn't have the world any other way!
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Old 07-07-2003, 08:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree that love is what we all strive for. People can't ignore it and there is really no point in anything else. <br>Love is a feeling, a chemical reaction that our brain interprets in a specific way, but it happens for a reason, and that reason can't be trivial or what you experience isn't love it's lust<br>As people we love those people who we now so well that they seem to be an extension of ourselves. Those people who mean as much to us as we do to ourselves are the ones we love.<br>"Love is non possesive, if you truely love another then you let them go." If you care about someone, then you must realize that you can't keep them or save them from anything, all you can do is wish them luck.<br>We don't have control over who we love, love is indescriminate, we only have the power to recognize that we do love.<P>That's what I feel about love, I think that I wandered off topic there somewhere, but it's late and I'm tired.
Happiness is all that is worth seeking in life. Nothing else matters to me, but, I don't know where to find it...
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Old 07-07-2003, 09:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
Originally posted by Darkness/Haven
that our brain interprets in a specific way
think about that for a while, its the key to existence and consciousness and humanity, i have only gotten to a certain point with it on a few occasions
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Old 07-07-2003, 09:47 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Minx
"Love is not what makes the world go round...it is what makes the ride worthwhile."
I agree. The only things I can say that I *truly desire* is love. It's the only thing I find the hassels, trials, and pain of life worth going through for.
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Old 07-07-2003, 10:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'd have to say, that in all my trials with women... Love is a joke with no punch line (and to any of you readers who also watch The Oblongs, I took that line from that little morbid goth outcast whose name I can't recall right now).
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Old 07-08-2003, 04:46 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Love is incredibly varied.
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Old 07-08-2003, 06:26 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Love is when your completely content with the person your with.
Angels are like diamonds, Rare to find and not always pure. But if you look hard enough there will be a perfect one.
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Old 07-08-2003, 06:58 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I wrote this a while ago:

Real love is a lot of things. It's the difference between a girlfriend you can tell about your day, and a girlfriend you can tell about your life. It's the difference between feeling good when you kiss her, and getting that tingle down your spine. But on Saturday night, I discovered that what it really is, is the difference between the hunger for something more, and the hunger for more of something.

You know the feeling, when you kiss someone and you're attracted to her...and the kiss just isn't enough; you want more of her, and you want it to be even better than it is. I thought that hunger was a part of being in love; but it's not. It's the feeling of lusting after her, but falling just short of love. That feeling is commonplace, and it's futile; no matter what you do, no matter how passionately you kiss her or how tight you squeeze her, you'll only want more. And it's not the wanting more that counts. No, on Saturday night I held a girl in my arms, and I knew what it means to really be in love.

At that moment, I didn't want more. I had found more. I didn't want that moment to be better, and I wasn't thinking about taking things further. All I hungered for was more of that moment. I wanted that moment to last forever, just me and her in the world, nothing more and nothing less. And it is that hunger that is love. Not sex, not wanting something better, just wanting that moment to last longer. Just another minute, another second with her.
Just the rest of your life, in that embrace.
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Old 07-08-2003, 08:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
Yea, that sounds good.
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Old 07-08-2003, 08:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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TIO: woah, yeah, that sounds good.
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Old 07-08-2003, 11:43 PM   #25 (permalink)
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damn TIO...i had something that i was going to put down, but after reading what you said i cant match it. you pretty much explained what i was thinking and didnt know how to word it.
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Old 07-09-2003, 07:22 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Love is fear . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . afraid that you will lose the pleasure that the object of your love gives you. Love is therefore a selfish emotion.

You love your woman = you fear losing her.
You love your children = you fear for their safety.
You love your dog = ditto
You say you love chocolate = you are telling everyone to bring you some . . afraid that you will never get any ever again.

Love = Fear . . thats why telling people to 'love your fellow man' is a waste of time . . we prioritise . .our wives, our family, our friends, our pet goldfish, our townsfolk, our nationality . . and then the rest of the world. We spend more on pet food than we do on aid for the starving nations.

Love = a selfish, fearful emotion.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:46 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 07-09-2003, 11:22 AM   #28 (permalink)
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yep i really like the tingle down the spine and goosebumps. Actually just reading your post TIO, gave me a tingle down my spine, lotsa of good memories, thanks.

also love may be a selfish emotion, but also its defianlty a selfless emotion. Theres a lot of ambivalence with love, thats why its a bit of a paradox and so complicated and thats why its hard to define. Everyone has there own perceptions of it.
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Old 07-10-2003, 08:13 AM   #29 (permalink)
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wow, TIO, that was great! I totally agree. Love isn't something that can be explained easily. My mom asked me to the other day. For everyone who thinks love is just chemical or that it doesn't exist, I hope that one day you change your mind and that you get to experience love for what it is, a beautiful, wonderful thing.
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Old 07-12-2003, 10:18 PM   #30 (permalink)
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In grad school we spent an entire semester discussing the ideals of love and I agree that there are no simple answers to just what love is and if it exists. Class usually got divided into two groups, the ones who believe "love is the end all, be all to everything" and the ones who followed the cliche "chemical reaction." I would like to believe the "end all" theory but that would mean that there are some things in life that I can't explain, which means that I would probably start having to believe in things like fate, destiny, and god. O of course the chemical reaction theory has the fault of why. Why do we get a chemical reaction? I of course always picked the side of which ever girl I was trying to sleep with at the time
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Old 07-13-2003, 02:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
The "chemical reaction" theory has the fault of the fact that we feel it. Who cares if it is a "chemical reaction". It is one that we feel, and only feel in a certain situation. A situation that has meaning and is given meaning by that "reaction". That feeling or reaction can be the "end all", and that is great.
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:09 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Love is all there is - after you drop all the unnecessary things.
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Old 07-13-2003, 03:17 PM   #33 (permalink)
love is over rated
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Old 07-21-2003, 09:25 PM   #34 (permalink)
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LOVE has two sites....

the side that make you feel amazing, TIO's words show that feeling. where life has meaning and you have something to live for.

and the side that hurts. when the love you have for someone isnt given back.

love is happiness
love is the pleasure of being with someone who shares that same feeling with you
love is the moment where life has meaning
love is when the world is right

love is pain
love is loneliness
love is sadness
love is when your heart hits the pit of your stomach, and nothing matters anymore.
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Old 07-21-2003, 11:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Loving relationship is the promise and potential of humankind. It is a gift, and one i hold sacred.
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Old 07-22-2003, 12:18 AM   #36 (permalink)
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love is a double sided blade

and it cuts a lot

but hey to survive people want goals to strive for and its just another
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Old 07-22-2003, 12:47 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Humans are just highly advanced social primates. Love helps to hold society together and keep us from killing each other. If it didn't exist, humans wouldn't have got very far. Love, just like hate, is a product of evolution.
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Old 07-23-2003, 12:12 AM   #38 (permalink)
Ecstacy - love in a pill
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Old 07-23-2003, 04:05 AM   #39 (permalink)
love is hearing someone fart and letting them think they got away with it.
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Old 07-27-2003, 05:33 PM   #40 (permalink)
Love is a chemical reaction that takes place in the brain. It used to be vital, but it is now pointless, and even harmful in this age of overpopulation. There should be a control put on the number of children people should have, and "love" should be a strongly discouraged ideal that should be looked upon as something similar to adultery.
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