3 meals away from Anarchy? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

duckznutz · 07-12-2003, 05:13 PM

There is a theory that if we all missed only three consecutive meals (for whatever reason . . . power cuts, transport problems, nuclear/biological scare etc,) . . . society would completely disintigrate into Anarchy.

bermuDa · 07-12-2003, 05:54 PM

all that free time usually ends in anarchy in one form or another

chavos · 07-12-2003, 06:36 PM

my guess is that it would take a few more, though perhaps not much....as evidence i would cite the new york blackouts. There was some mayhem, but mostly people waited patiently for society to be restored....

butthead · 07-12-2003, 06:37 PM

Hmm, "theory", or really nonsensible hypothesis? You decide.

bermuDa · 07-12-2003, 06:49 PM

good point; a theory has to be tested to be called a theory...

Slims · 07-12-2003, 08:12 PM

I read an interesting OTA report from the late 70's that concluded that some 'bad guys' would only need to blow up a couple of our oil refineries to throw the US into a (temporary) state of anarchy.

Simply by removing our ability to transport goods and services, people would quickly be denied even basic needs like food, and would thus riot/do whatever they needed to in order to eat.

Saxofonix · 07-14-2003, 08:56 AM

yeah well, imagine 6 billion people being crabby with low blood sugar levels at the same time because they missed out on 3 consecutive meals. Of course there would be pandemonium & anarchy.

Easytiger · 07-14-2003, 05:29 PM

I guess it depends on the circumstances, too. I mean, does an army unit quit fighting just because it's hungry and people are shooting at it? Did Britain collapse into anarchy during the Second World War?
Some crises, like earthquakes and fires, can lead to temporary anarchy, but it would take something pretty serious to shake a society to pieces. I think you'll find that the "three meals from anarchy" statement was written by an anarchist who was pretty keen to see it happen.

duckznutz · 07-14-2003, 10:38 PM

An army is a special situation . . they expect hardship. Ditto a nation at war. I dont think it would take much at all to shake a developed society to pieces. Turn off the power and prevent people buying petrol/gas (the fuel blockade in the UK 18 months ago had a lot of people very worried!) . . and it would all quickly unravel. Perhaps not anarchy . . . there are third world countries who live without much power and fuel . . . . . . but they are used to that. I doubt the people of the USA or the UK could tolerate the loss of power/gas and the food they are used to. Few people know how to kill and cook an animal . . . . . . . .

MSD · 07-17-2003, 10:56 PM

I would have to say that potential anarchy is more concentrated in some places. In a small town, it might take a lot to spark a riot, but in L.A. all it takes is a tape of officers beating a black man.

07-12-2003, 05:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
duckznutz Addict Location: Brook Cottage, Lanark, Scotland	3 meals away from Anarchy? There is a theory that if we all missed only three consecutive meals (for whatever reason . . . power cuts, transport problems, nuclear/biological scare etc,) . . . society would completely disintigrate into Anarchy.

07-12-2003, 05:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	all that free time usually ends in anarchy in one form or another __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

07-12-2003, 06:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	good point; a theory has to be tested to be called a theory... __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

07-12-2003, 08:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	I read an interesting OTA report from the late 70's that concluded that some 'bad guys' would only need to blow up a couple of our oil refineries to throw the US into a (temporary) state of anarchy. Simply by removing our ability to transport goods and services, people would quickly be denied even basic needs like food, and would thus riot/do whatever they needed to in order to eat. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

07-14-2003, 10:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
duckznutz Addict Location: Brook Cottage, Lanark, Scotland	An army is a special situation . . they expect hardship. Ditto a nation at war. I dont think it would take much at all to shake a developed society to pieces. Turn off the power and prevent people buying petrol/gas (the fuel blockade in the UK 18 months ago had a lot of people very worried!) . . and it would all quickly unravel. Perhaps not anarchy . . . there are third world countries who live without much power and fuel . . . . . . but they are used to that. I doubt the people of the USA or the UK could tolerate the loss of power/gas and the food they are used to. Few people know how to kill and cook an animal . . . . . . . . __________________ Where your talents and the needs of the world cross . . there lies your vocation.

07-12-2003, 06:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
chavos Banned Location: St. Paul, MN	my guess is that it would take a few more, though perhaps not much....as evidence i would cite the new york blackouts. There was some mayhem, but mostly people waited patiently for society to be restored....

07-12-2003, 06:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
butthead Loser Location: SF Bay Area, CA	Hmm, "theory", or really nonsensible hypothesis? You decide.

07-14-2003, 08:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
Saxofonix Upright	yeah well, imagine 6 billion people being crabby with low blood sugar levels at the same time because they missed out on 3 consecutive meals. Of course there would be pandemonium & anarchy.

07-14-2003, 05:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
Easytiger Insane Location: Tigerland	I guess it depends on the circumstances, too. I mean, does an army unit quit fighting just because it's hungry and people are shooting at it? Did Britain collapse into anarchy during the Second World War? Some crises, like earthquakes and fires, can lead to temporary anarchy, but it would take something pretty serious to shake a society to pieces. I think you'll find that the "three meals from anarchy" statement was written by an anarchist who was pretty keen to see it happen.

07-17-2003, 10:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	I would have to say that potential anarchy is more concentrated in some places. In a small town, it might take a lot to spark a riot, but in L.A. all it takes is a tape of officers beating a black man.