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Old 04-24-2003, 04:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tilted Philosophy?

I was wondering why there isn't a Tilted Philosophy Forum here? As the evolution of humanity, sexuality and philosophy we should have a place simply for philosophical thought. I'm not sure if there is another place to do this and I'm just missing it. I'm new to the TFP, is anyone else for the creation of a Tilted Philosophy Forum for purely conceptual talk? And, if not, where should I post this kind of thread for discussion?

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Old 04-24-2003, 04:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmm...it would be a good idea for a forum where people can post there ideas about things...like what would of happend if we didnt enter WWII, why we are here...and so on.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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oh god, philosphy makes my head hurt!
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Old 04-25-2003, 12:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As a Philosophy graduate I would love a Philosophy forum, but what with my extra shift at McDonalds and all I just don't think I'd have the time to contribute.
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Old 04-25-2003, 12:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think if you look at the board as a whole, you'll see a bit of philosophy contained in all of our posts.
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Old 04-25-2003, 01:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Philosophy is not something that you can discuss with most people... mainly due their ignorance.
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Old 04-26-2003, 10:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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lets make a new post where people can sigh their names to show their support (forget what it is called)
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Old 04-26-2003, 10:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I suggested a philosophy forum in the suggestions area. I thought that maybe it would prevent it from being lost in the shuffle of general discussion. But anyway, here's what Spleen said...
"well, philosophy IS discussion. And it can be pretty general at that too. We had discussions on whether a philosophy section would work, but we decided against it. Philosophy isn't everyone's game, and (like another forum that isn't here right now) might not get much activity.

It is in everyones best interest to keep it in general discussion, because it it there that the most open minds will go, the most closed minds will go, and the most amount of discussion will occur. And we all know how much there is to say about philosophy. There is A LOT to say, discuss, tell, ponder, etc."

So I dunno, it sounds like they want us to keep it in general discussion, but maybe if we got enough support...?
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Old 04-26-2003, 11:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The problem with Tilted Philosophy is that it would make General discussion too prosaic.
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Old 04-27-2003, 04:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Philosophy does seem to be an OVER general topic... Unless of course by philosophy one actually means philosophy rather than "My opinion on X is Y". But that isn't what usually happens.

I'm not an elitist or anything, but real Philosophy is not for everyone. I do think, though, most here would be able to enjoy it.
Its just not as simple as most people think. There is more to it than anything else I have ever undertaken-

In order to truly work philosophy, as any true philosopher would tell you, one must understand how philosophy got to where it is today, and the underlining arguments. Think early modern specificly (Descartes, Hume and Kant as most important).

The way philosophy works today requires understanding things like the epistemic problem of the cartesian circle, cartesian dualism juxtaposed to monism. Also, Humian epistemology is essential. Kant is important because most philosophers today argue like Kant, and use Kantian theroms.

But if by philosophy you mean Ethics, well then thats a whole other can of worms.

Non-pure ethics involves the arguing of matters of fact as well as logical analysis of those matters.

But Pure Ethics realizes that it would seem that in order for a true argument to occur, there must not be ANY disagreement of matters of fact but simply on the conclusions we get from them.

If we exercise non-pure Ethics, its simply an issue of what is empirical, thus philosophy asks Science to deal with that.

Pure philosophy would be like two people agreeing that abortion is the killing of an unborn child that is able to feel and cathart as well, or nearly as well as a 1 day old child; yet still disagreeing about whether abortion is permicible or not.

Now, onto metaphysics- This is the most indepth and, frankly, puzzling of all philosophy schools. Meta-epistemology and MetaEthics fit here, and they ask, not is there a God, but rather, what is the world REALY, based not on empirical data, but only rational intrigue.

And so you see, philosophy is a different thing than most think.

Most people think philosophy as religion/politics/ethics arguing.

But it is not
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