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Old 06-01-2003, 10:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ishmael: Has anyone read it?

I hope that this is an appropriate place to bring up this topic. I just finished reading the book Ishmael and was wondering if anyone else out there has read it as well and would be willing to discuss some of the ideas contained therein. I am open to anything so just start dropping in ideas and we will see where this will go.

Ill start by suggesting that we talk about the cultural myths used by the Takers.
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Old 06-02-2003, 05:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes i have read daniel quinns book ishmeal and it was a great book. I picked up that the problem with moddern day civilazation and the reson our plane is crashing is that it is bassed off the bible witch was pre-agricultural and is not compatable with moddern day life.
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Old 06-03-2003, 01:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I haven't read Ishmael, but I have read "The Story Of B" (by the same author). It's supposed to take place after Ishmael. Very good read...I thoroughly enjoyed it. It has affected the way in which I think about the world.
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I was wondering about the story of B and wanted to read it but i wanted to make sure the message wasnt the same as the book ishmeal so what is the message?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I was wondering about the story of B and wanted to read it but i wanted to make sure the message wasnt the same as the book ishmeal so what is the message?
Well, I have not read Ishmael, but others I've talked to said that it is very similar to The Story of B. There's a passing reference to Ishmael as being the teacher/mentor of B (where B is the name of a character in the book).

The message is basically about how "our way of life" (which generalizes all of the major societies/cultures of the world as one group) is on a self-destructive course, and that there have to be other types of societal structures that would work better, though he doesn't give any specifics about how to do this. It went through some of the details about how agriculture/religion has shaped our cultural mentality, and the signs of why this is bad for us and the world/ecology.

What I really liked about it was that it provided a new way to think about humanity. I was not used to his reasoning process...it makes a lot of sense, but it was just something I had never thought about before. When I find some free time, I'm going to check out some more of this guy's works.
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