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opentocomments 06-14-2003 02:04 PM

He lost in Missouri because we didnt trust him so the Prez takes him under his wing

I say pass the mini mustash old ashy's way

Jack Ruby 06-14-2003 02:59 PM

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Phaenx 06-14-2003 08:18 PM

Re: Re: Re: Ashcroft really is Hitler
 
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Originally posted by The_Dude
hold up..........you are saying that the govt should be able to 1)put somebody in custody indefinately 2)provide no access to council 3)no habeas corpus 4)no trial before a jury and i can go on.....

you have ANY idea how many ammendments and statutes and supreme court rulings that violates?

In this context:

1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.

If he gets the power, it will be legal, that's all I have to worry about. The lawmakers can work out the details.

The_Dude 06-14-2003 09:57 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ashcroft really is Hitler
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Phaenx
In this context:

1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.

If he gets the power, it will be legal, that's all I have to worry about. The lawmakers can work out the details.

you know that you could move to china or cuba and have all those luxuries!

Phaenx 06-14-2003 10:00 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ashcroft really is Hitler
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The_Dude
you know that you could move to china or cuba and have all those luxuries!
I can live here and have my government protect me from terrorist assholes too.

Pacifier 06-15-2003 04:58 AM

yeah, but who protects you from your goverment?

Phaenx 06-15-2003 01:14 PM

The government protects itself from me. I don't care that people are being thrown in prison until we find out if they are a terrorist or not, if it's legal then there's no problem with me. Besides, I burned all the reciepts for all the c4 I bought last year so I should be fine.

The_Dude 06-15-2003 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phaenx
The government protects itself from me. I don't care that people are being thrown in prison until we find out if they are a terrorist or not, if it's legal then there's no problem with me. Besides, I burned all the reciepts for all the c4 I bought last year so I should be fine.
fine, u dont mind being held in all those situations?

1)held indefinately
2) no contact w/ your family, they dont know where u are
3)no lawyer

Phaenx 06-15-2003 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Dude
fine, u dont mind being held in all those situations?

1)held indefinately
2) no contact w/ your family, they dont know where u are
3)no lawyer

Of course I'd have a problem with it, but then I'd also be a terrorist too, so I'd expect it, and understand it. There's a very simple process to ensure this doesn't happen to you: "Stop doing things that make you look like a terrorist, and noone will think you're a terrorist. Also, stop being a terrorist."

I don't think letting a guy that's sending money to muslim extremist groups in the middle east, buying explosives, and filming bridges roam around the United States while we investigate him is a good idea.

seretogis 06-16-2003 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phaenx
I don't think letting a guy that's sending money to muslim extremist groups in the middle east, buying explosives, and filming bridges roam around the United States while we investigate him is a good idea.
Perhaps he's planning a legitimate fireworks display on a bridge for independance day? ;)

The_Dude 06-16-2003 07:20 AM

and do you have ANY idea how many laws and statutes and rulings that violates?

Phaenx 06-16-2003 06:51 PM

Perhaps he is, but that would be incredibly stupid/insensitive in the context that we're on the lookout for middle easterners that buy explosives among other things.

Quote:

and do you have ANY idea how many laws and statutes and rulings that violates?
How many? Point them out, then send them in a letter to Washington or a lawyer or someone. They'll hopefully explain the semantics of our lawmaking system in a response to how they plan on legally introducing their beefed up patriot bill.


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