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HarmlessRabbit · 07-07-2003, 11:33 AM

Who said the following:

Quote:

"I particularly condemn the way our political leaders supplied the manpower for that (the Vietnam) war. The policies -- determining who would be drafted and who would be deferred, who would serve and who would escape, who would die and who would live -- were an antidemocratic disgrace. I can never forgive a leadership that said, in effect: These young men -- poorer, less educated, less privileged -- are expendable (someone described them as "economic cannon fodder"), but the rest are too good to risk. I am angry that so many sons of the powerful and well placed and many professional athletes (who were probably healthier than any of us) managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units [e.g., George W. Bush (BuzzFlash's insertion)]. Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to our country."

and

Quote:

"Many of my generation, the career captains, majors, and lieutenant colonels seasoned in that (Vietnam) war, vowed that when our turn came to call the shots, we would not quietly acquiesce in halfhearted warfare for half-baked reasons that the American people could not understand or support. If we could make good on that promise to ourselves, to the civilian leadership, and to the country, then the sacrifices of Vietnam would not have been in vain."

the answer is here:

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/2..._Military.html

The_Dude · 07-07-2003, 12:09 PM

very very very suprising. not who i thought said it

Sparhawk · 07-07-2003, 12:15 PM

I knew, but then again I've read the book.

I also really like the phrase 'Chicken Hawks'. It suits a lot of people in DC.

Sen · 07-07-2003, 12:32 PM

I, too, knew but also read the book.

Liquor Dealer · 07-10-2003, 04:29 AM

Powell was expresing his opinion on the position taken by elected leadership and their policies during the Vietnam era. The military was used like a chessboard by those in Washington, and the vietnam conflict was never waged effectively. While many were able for many reasons, to avoid going to Vietnam, others didn't. My college roomate was killed in Vietnam and received a Silver Star for heroism - he had signed and received a signing bonus from the Atlanta Falcons. I think if you look at the way the military has been managed by the current administration you will see that the Pentagon has waged all militray action with very little influence being exerted by the White House.

07-07-2003, 12:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	very very very suprising. not who i thought said it __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

07-07-2003, 12:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	I knew, but then again I've read the book. I also really like the phrase 'Chicken Hawks'. It suits a lot of people in DC. __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

07-07-2003, 12:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sen Insane Location: Midwest	I, too, knew but also read the book. __________________ "I want to announce my presence with authority!" "You want to what?" "I want to announce my presence with authority!!"

07-10-2003, 04:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	Powell was expresing his opinion on the position taken by elected leadership and their policies during the Vietnam era. The military was used like a chessboard by those in Washington, and the vietnam conflict was never waged effectively. While many were able for many reasons, to avoid going to Vietnam, others didn't. My college roomate was killed in Vietnam and received a Silver Star for heroism - he had signed and received a signing bonus from the Atlanta Falcons. I think if you look at the way the military has been managed by the current administration you will see that the Pentagon has waged all militray action with very little influence being exerted by the White House. __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!