Berkeley? Home of the slanted news...

I'm wondering if this means that you read it and couldn't refute it, or if you just didn't read it in the first place.

I did read it.. But it's still home of the slanted news..

Viriik:

So tell me, where *else* do you get your news? MSNBC, perhaps? FOX?

All news is biased. Every farking bit of it. The difference: this is research, not news.
That being the case, can you refute it?

Ok, I didn't find a need for this before, but I am seeing things getting out of hand now.

The topic of this thread is "GWB vs. Clinton, whos the better president?" not which news source is slanted, or who can shout longer and louder.

Please stick to the topic at hand without flaming each other. You've already been warned once, and if you can't continue the debate like civilized human beings, the debate will be ended for you.

If you don't have anything nice to say (or anything of importance to add to the conversation), don't say anything at all. Or take it private (to PM's). Leave it out of the public forum.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled Politcal thread...

Then are you equally upset at France and Germany for trying to tell the U.S. how to make foreign policy?

Didn't think you could.

Game, set, match.

Please insert another twentyfive cents to play again and better luck next time.

2Wolves

which part of didn't you understand?

The forum Tilted Politics and the threads that are contained within are not a place for a public pissing contest. Cease and disist this obnoxious behavior now, and attempt to debate the original topic like CIVILIZED human beings.

This is my last warning before I shut down the thread. Got it?

I dont think either of them was that good of a president. But between the two of them I would say Clinton was better than Bush. With Clinton at least some people had a job. :)

I'd be in support of you closing it down. There's nothing of value to be garnered by futhering this argument.

I won't even argue with anyone, because I think the majority of the people would agree Clinton by far was the better president, economically of course.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can remember, what they did was refuse to cooperate and vote for the UN to participate in the action. They might've used their veto, I'm not sure.
Anyway, I believe there's a large difference between voting against and telling people what to do.

I truly believe that in time Clinton will be regarded as the better president, unless President Bush begins to turn things around. However, let's be honest, neither will likely be considered one of "The Greatest".

Both men have made mistakes during their presidency, but the advantage that Clinton appears to have is that he was capable of learning from his mistakes. He made a number of errors during his first term as Governor and his first term as President. Both times he studied his errors, learned from them and came back stonger. The question remains as to whether President Bush will learn from his mistakes.

There is no question that Clinton is the more intelligent of the two men,(not that being smarter makes you a better president) and that he has an active intellectual curiosity. I do not subscribe to the myth that President Bush is dumb, just that he lacks that intellectual curiosity and dislikes complicated issues. If he can overcome these dislikes he may have a chance, but I still have to give it to Clinton.

P.S. I voted: Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Gore. (just for the record)

According to the poll, it seems that most of us find Clinton a better president. I believe that was the point of the thread.

The interesting thing about politicial opinion is that all of us (including myself) really really really want to be right.

It doesn't take much looking to see that no political party has your best interest in mind, but many of us will defend it to the death as if they do.

Gore is the better President. The only President in recent history not to have screwed up at all while being the President, mostly because he doesn't do anything.

Oh, you mean the guy currently living in The White House?

Well, GWB wasn't elected, he was appointed by the Supreme Court to fill in until we elect a new one next year. Hopefully, he doesn't screw-up our economy or invade another country before his fill-in term is up. Oops . . . too late.

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Seriously, Clinton was better for America, at least he acted like he cared about people who earned less than $100,000 a year . . .

Closed the thread, it was thru it's usefulness and majority of arguments are starting to circulate.