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Old 09-03-2003, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Johnny Depp calls U.S. a stupid agressive puppy.

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BERLIN (Reuters) - Hollywood star Johnny Depp said on Wednesday the United States was a stupid, aggressive puppy and he would not live there until the political climate changed.

The 40-year-old actor, who stars in the "Pirates of the Caribbean," told the German news magazine Stern he was happier staying in the south of France with his wife, the French actress and singer Vanessa Paradis, and their two children.

"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive," he said.

"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out," said the star of the off-beat films "Edward Scissorhands" and "Dead Man."

Depp slammed George W. Bush's administration for its criticism of French opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

"I was ecstatic they re-named 'French Fries' as 'Freedom Fries'. Grown men and women in positions of power in the U.S. government showing themselves as idiots," he told Stern
Johnny, STFU and stay in France.
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Old 09-03-2003, 04:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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An exactly where did Johnny Depp get his degree in political science and international relations ?
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Old 09-03-2003, 04:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He has a point with the whole freedom fries thing.
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Old 09-03-2003, 04:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 09-03-2003, 05:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Who CARES ?????

i saw all the ruckus over dixie chicks' comments also.

they're singers/entertainers, and they do NOT have any political power.
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Old 09-03-2003, 05:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Johnny Depp calls U.S. a stupid agressive puppy.

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Johnny, STFU and stay in France.
Agreed! And I'll add that I hope he chokes and dies the next time he shoves some freedom fries in his pie-hole!

The only thing that pisses me off is if he hated America soooo much then he'd give back all the money he's made off of Americans. Fuck him!!

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Old 09-03-2003, 06:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think it is great when Hollyweird types bite the hand that feeds them.

Oh yeah they are not freedom fries, they are

potatoes du cowards.
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Old 09-03-2003, 06:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Who is more stupid, Johnny Depp for shit-talking the U.S., or Americans for going to see movies that he's in?
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Old 09-03-2003, 06:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Over 10k people died in France from the heat wave.

Thats quite the massive loss of life. If a country can't even protect its citizens from heat...

I'm somewhat at a loss of words over that heat wave ordeal in France. And then having someone, who's made his life in America, complain about the US when the own country he's allying himself with lets 10,000 people die to heat...

Just seems odd to me.
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Old 09-03-2003, 06:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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One of the freedoms granted by being American is the right to criticize it.
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Old 09-03-2003, 06:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No ones saying he doesn't have the right. Just that he's a moron, which is also our right to say as Americans.
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, but who really cares what an actor has to say? Oh wait, the Republicans do.

/me moves out of California if Schwarzanegger wins
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Over 10k people died in France from the heat wave.

Thats quite the massive loss of life. If a country can't even protect its citizens from heat...

I'm somewhat at a loss of words over that heat wave ordeal in France. And then having someone, who's made his life in America, complain about the US when the own country he's allying himself with lets 10,000 people die to heat...

Just seems odd to me.
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Johnny Depp is cool. Great actor, good movies...and hes got the right idea about America too.
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It always amazes me how such a "stupid country" could rise to and maintain it's pre-eminence over the rest of the world for most of the last century, with no sign of flagging. If we are so stupid, where does that leave the rest of the world?
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It always amazes me how such a "stupid country" could rise to and maintain it's pre-eminence over the rest of the world for most of the last century, with no sign of flagging. If we are so stupid, where does that leave the rest of the world?
I was not aware that America dominated the rest of the world. Something tells me you haven't asked "the rest of the world" what they think about this. That's just pure American arrogance and ignorance rolled into one statement.

Blowing up one country, with the help of the United Kingdom, is not exactly a sign of superiority.
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Johnny Depp calls U.S. a stupid agressive puppy.

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Agreed! And I'll add that I hope he chokes and dies the next time he shoves some freedom fries in his pie-hole!

The only thing that pisses me off is if he hated America soooo much then he'd give back all the money he's made off of Americans. Fuck him!!
All i've got to say is . . . AMEN.
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I was not aware that America dominated the rest of the world. Something tells me you haven't asked "the rest of the world" what they think about this. That's just pure American arrogance and ignorance rolled into one statement.

Blowing up one country, with the help of the United Kingdom, is not exactly a sign of superiority.
I did not say we dominated them.

The US is most certainly the only superpower in the world at the moment. Regardless of whether the rest of the world thinks, that is the case.

If not, then this wouldn't be an issue, would it?
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 09-03-2003, 07:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I thought one of the main reasons most of the world dislikes America is that we do dominate it - not militarily but economically and culturally. Our popular culture, which even here many cannot stand, seeps into other countries and takes hold.

oh and a big lol @ debaser.
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Old 09-03-2003, 08:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Over 10k people died in France from the heat wave.

Thats quite the massive loss of life. If a country can't even protect its citizens from heat...

I'm somewhat at a loss of words over that heat wave ordeal in France. And then having someone, who's made his life in America, complain about the US when the own country he's allying himself with lets 10,000 people die to heat...

Just seems odd to me.
I hardly think that's fair to say, in fact, distasteful. If you are offended by johnny depp's comments, then stay mad at him. No need to be rude and diss a country for a TRAGEDY that's beyond their control. How would you like it if someone said 'those americans don't even have enough security to prevent a plane from crashing into the WTC.' Both cases include the loss of life, and are sad occurences. So lay off France.

But I am disappointed by Johnny Depp in that i thought he was a respectful actor. If he was to criticize America, he should've at least offered more support and insight than just the fries example[though that was ridiculous].
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Old 09-03-2003, 08:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I hardly think that's fair to say, in fact, distasteful. If you are offended by johnny depp's comments, then stay mad at him. No need to be rude and diss a country for a TRAGEDY that's beyond their control.
I'm not personally offended by Depps comments, I couldn't care less what he had to say. However, I cannot help but find his loyalty to France odd when so many people have died there from a heatwave. people are saying that it was a major failing of the French administration to not provide for the care of their people. Perhaps Depp should be speaking instead about the failings of his adopted government, to provide for very basic services for its population.

But I guess he's rich enough that he had air conditioning and could care less about dying Frenchmen.

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How would you like it if someone said 'those americans don't even have enough security to prevent a plane from crashing into the WTC.
Uh, people have said this, and they're right. Our intelligence services failed us in 9/11. You can critisize the administration without disrepecting the dead.
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Old 09-03-2003, 08:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I agree with depp though, the political climate here sucks lately.. i mean look at you guys fighting over another persons opinion.

I'm considering leaving the country as he has, as many people have lately.

I figure I got another 5 years left in the usa.. if things are better at that point, I may stay, but right now, he's right, the administration is run by immaturity that cant see the big picture beyond thier own beloved towers or gas prices, and must throw tantrums by renaming french fries to freedom fries... I stopped eating fries after that.

I went to shari's one day and someone had vandalized the menu to read freedom fries...

immaturity is indeed rampant.

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Old 09-03-2003, 09:21 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 09-03-2003, 09:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I hardly think that's fair to say, in fact, distasteful. If you are offended by johnny depp's comments, then stay mad at him. No need to be rude and diss a country for a TRAGEDY that's beyond their control. How would you like it if someone said 'those americans don't even have enough security to prevent a plane from crashing into the WTC.' Both cases include the loss of life, and are sad occurences. So lay off France.
Agreed. I'm really disappointed in the fact that it was brought up.

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But I am disappointed by Johnny Depp in that i thought he was a respectful actor.
I'm not clear about how his political opinion reflects on his status as a respectful actor. He's an actor. It's not even clear to me why this is news, nor why it is being discussed so vehemently here. Who cares what he has to say? This is a politics board, not People magazine. :P

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If he was to criticize America, he should've at least offered more support and insight than just the fries example(though that was ridiculous).
Maybe he does have more to say, but Reuters chose to report what it did.
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Old 09-03-2003, 09:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Uh, people have said this, and they're right. Our intelligence services failed us in 9/11. You can critisize the administration without disrepecting the dead.
You are absolutely right and I admit to being rash while posting earlier, it's always confusing when in people in general say France or America or any other country without specifying the people and its government, it just slips my mind on the specific meaning. As well, it's just difficult for me [personally] to blame disasters on the government until there is clear evidence of negligence; I wouldn't blame 9/11 on the US government, nor the deaths from the heatwave on the French gov.

However by the same token of your post, Johnny Depp may [and probably is] 'criticizing the administration without disrespecting' its citizens. His comments were lacking of intelligence but he certainly does not deserve some of the harsher words from the boards. He has not betrayed the people, but simply demonstrated his frustration towards its government [albeit poorly executed ].
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Old 09-03-2003, 09:51 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Interesting that their deaths are the fault of the government when our own government couldn't save the lives of the citizens of its most populous state in a similar heat wave last year.
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Old 09-03-2003, 09:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Part of the reason France had such a problem was because of the , I don't know the word, liberal or socialist(?) work schdule. The hospitals were horribly under staffed to handle a crisis with such a lax work week.
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Old 09-03-2003, 10:06 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The people that died were vastly senior citizens that were left home alone.

Blaming it on the government of France is insane. There are deaths here in America when there are massive, prolonged heat waves.

Blaming it on socialism is beyond insane.
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Old 09-03-2003, 10:10 PM   #30 (permalink)
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We have had "Political Correctness" shoved down our throats. You canít be for the administration and you canít be against it, either way, you are not a patriot. Depp should be able to say what he wants, if you donít like it, donít purchase tickets of videos that he is in. If you agree with him, fine, support him. Either way, you are a patriot.

Personally, I think he is a shit stick, but that is his right.
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Old 09-03-2003, 10:11 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I am SHOCKED that Johnny Depp has an opinion!

I am SHOCKED that he chose to express those opinions in, of all things, a newspaper!!!!

People always take this so personally. He answered a question and expressed an opinion. We common folk, do the same thing everyday at work, home, school, etc.... His opinion is slathered all over the headlines because of his modicum of fame and the slightly inflammatory remarks. I'm sure all of us, and I could be wrong, has said worse when rehashing political opinion over the water cooler.
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Old 09-03-2003, 10:25 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You are so right guthmund. I could not have said it any better, even though I tried.
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Old 09-03-2003, 10:31 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Attention Americans:

The following Hollywood celebrities henceforth have doctorates in political science and foreign policy:

1. Arnold Schwarzenegger
2. James Woods
3. Patricia Heaton
4. Ronald Reagan
5. Clint Eastwood
6. Bruce Willis

All other Hollywood political science degrees have been revoked. Have a nice day.

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Old 09-03-2003, 10:50 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You forgot Rob Lowe!

He played a politician once in a movie, that qualifies his opinion.
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Old 09-04-2003, 01:17 AM   #35 (permalink)
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To all actors and other "artists":
Only express your optinion if it is appoved by the goverment, otherwise please leave our country since you are "unpatriotic" and "unamerican".



the problem is that this statement:
"U.S. government showing themselves as idiots"
fits to a lot of right wingers
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Old 09-04-2003, 01:23 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I'm not clear about how his political opinion reflects on his status as a respectful actor. He's an actor. It's not even clear to me why this is news, nor why it is being discussed so vehemently here. Who cares what he has to say?
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Old 09-04-2003, 01:31 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I think it is horrible those of you wishing death upon him for having an opinion. At least he moved away before bashing the US government.

What is wrong with a public figure using their fame to express an opinion. Maybe he felt someone who would be heard needed to say it, rather than everyone either whispering it under their breath or not having enough influence to be heard.

If he voted, he shouldn't be threatened for complaining. I think a lot of people here are just internally bitter that no one cares what they have to say to the extent that Johnny Depp does.

He certainly wasn't criticizing the average american who doesn't really have much say in the action of the government. I think it sweetly ironic that he made all his money here. I bet the whole administration has at least one of his movies and to me that is just hilarious.

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Old 09-04-2003, 04:39 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Dammit, Vanessa Paradis is great looking.





Now repeat after me:
Viva la France


Anyway, conserning the Iraqi war issue. So far the French(or the rest of the world) has been right and the US(or the Bush administration) has been wrong. I guess Depp knows this and that's why he feels this way.
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Old 09-04-2003, 07:52 AM   #39 (permalink)
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The people that died were vastly senior citizens that were left home alone.

Blaming it on the government of France is insane. There are deaths here in America when there are massive, prolonged heat waves.

Blaming it on socialism is beyond insane.
I disagree. In America, we were quick to blame deaths from heat waves on our government. Take, for example, the Chicago heat waves in 1995 and 1999. While the government doesn't necessarily deserve all of the blame, some of its actions could have and should have prevented more deaths. In 1995, 885 people died; in 1999, after instituting new guidelines and provisions, only 110 people died. It's still not enough, but it's a start. (Eric Klinenberg, "Heat Wave: A Social Autopsy of Disaster in Chicago")

Tangentially, blaming it on the government partly blames socialism. Directly, I'm not sure socialism has anything to do with it. If anything, socialism should have been more accomodating. The problem with heat-related deaths is that in a first world, Western country, it's is entirely preventable. 10,000 in a country as advanced and wealthy as France, with all its geographic advantages, is truly unforgiveable.

The other half of the blame is societal. Chirac recently released a statement saying something to the effect that it was shameful that so many French families, after learning of the death of a relative, did not cut short their beloved vacation to resolve things back in France. It's indicative of a greater problem both in America as well as in France: the idea that we pawn off our elderly to live alone or in understaffed retirement homes, so we can play at vacation and ignore our familial responsibility.

However, were it me, I would have probably not issued that statement while on holiday in Toronto.

Johnny Depp is a great actor, and as an American he's just exercising his right to free speech. Nothing wrong with that. It's the same right I'm going to exercise in a few minutes, when I'm going to completely ignore whatever wisdom he imparted. However, in his adopted home in France, allow me to give him a piece of advice: hold your tongue. In America, if you call Bush a worm, nothing happens. In France, calling Chirac a worm will cost you 30,000 pounds. Just ask the British newspaper The Sun. Be glad America vigorously defends its citizens' right to free speech. Remember that next time you call Bush or Dean "Hitler" or bemoan a slide into a "fascist" or "communist" nation.

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Old 09-04-2003, 08:25 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Its funny how a lot of people in this thread proved Johnny Depp right with their stupid agressive puppy reactions to his statement.

Johnny is a top geezer who proves that not all americans are insular fascists.
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