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Old 09-21-2003, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Clinton vs. Democratic party

I heard an interesting theory about General Wesley Clark and the Clintons' involvement with his campaign the other day.

The theory was that the reasoning behind the Clintons touting Clark as a nominee was to spongue votes from the other Democrats in the race. Basically, they want Bush to win so there is no incumbant to run against Hillary in '08.

I don't know about that, but it wouldn't surprise me coming from those people. I'm inclined to believe it but I'll have to wait and see how he goes about running his campaign. If he starts doing things that seem fishy then I'll be with this theory 100%.

Anyways, do you believe this? If so, how do you feel about democrats hurting their own party in this fashion?
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Old 09-21-2003, 01:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the way things are going right now, bush is going to be more of a liability to the republicans in fall '04 than whoever they nominate in '08.
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Old 09-21-2003, 02:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think people put too much though into this shit.
Could it be as simple as they think Clark is a good choice.

People forget, the Clintons are still relatively young, in political terms.
Hillary still wants to commit to her vow to the voters of NY,
and in the meantime gain power & influence in the Senate.
They know that their names are still catalysts for the GOP hate,
and they probably want to let some time past.

They are putting their choice behind someone who they think has a chance of ousting GW,
and THAT would be the first step to gaining the Presidency.
Because doing so would be much easier taking over a Demo prez in 8 years,
rather than taking on a strengthened GOP pres in 4.

They are not stupid, they know what their names do,
it's VERY doubtful they would try for it now.
They are just gaining influence & power, time is on their side.
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Old 09-21-2003, 02:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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no, clinton is not a back stabber.

he's not gonna root for what's best for his wife over what's best for the nation (hehe!).
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Old 09-21-2003, 04:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Watch the movie "head of state" similar, yet not at all concept exists in that movie...just reminded me of it, thats all..
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Old 09-21-2003, 04:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That's ridiculous. I think it's much more likely that the Clintons support Gen. Clark because his politics are extremely similar, he was an acting general during Clinton's Kosovo war, and because he's a more natural frontliner than any other of the candidates. That latter point is important because if they back a winner then that builds great political capital. It also makes the democratic party a Clinton party. First, he is elected then reelected and then they carry then next democrat into the White House after for 4 years of the most republican rule the US has seen in living memory. It would be the Clintons saving the day again! Does anyone really think that Hilary would get denied by the party after that in 4 years or 8?
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Old 09-21-2003, 05:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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no, clinton is not a back stabber.

he's not gonna root for what's best for his wife over what's best for the nation (hehe!).
He is a back-stabber, he'll root for what's best for his cock over everything/everybody else.
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Old 09-21-2003, 05:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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He is a back-stabber, he'll root for what's best for his cock over everything/everybody else.
1) AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! When will it ever end?!

2) I can only imagine what this boards must've been like during the last 2 yrs of Clinton (if it was around that is)
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Old 09-21-2003, 06:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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1) AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! When will it ever end?!

2) I can only imagine what this boards must've been like during the last 2 yrs of Clinton (if it was around that is)
I didn't see you prove me wrong.
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Old 09-21-2003, 08:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I dont think you will get far with that theory.
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Old 09-21-2003, 08:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I disagree, its pretty solid. If anyone actually thinks Hillary ISN'T doing any of this for her own political gain they are horribly naive.
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Old 09-21-2003, 09:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i dunno why people argue over this when all politics is *IS* backstabbing
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Old 09-21-2003, 09:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 09-21-2003, 09:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Wait, I thought that was money?

Or was it fat-bottomed girls...?
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Old 09-21-2003, 10:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Money is acquired through politics, which leads to fat-bottomed girls???
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Old 09-23-2003, 04:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I disagree, its pretty solid.
In that case, I have a lot of things I am selling.
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