Bill O'Rights

Here are just some of the Taxes Americans Pay:





Accounts Receivable Tax

Building Permit Tax

Capital Gains Tax

CDL license Tax

Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Court Fines (indirect taxes)

Dog License Tax

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

Fishing License Tax

Food License Tax

Fuel Permit Tax

Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)

Hunting License Tax

Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)

Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

Liquor Tax

Local Income Tax

Luxury Taxes

Marriage License Tax

Medicare Tax

Property Tax

Real Estate Tax

Septic Permit Tax

Service Charge Taxes

Social Security Tax

Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)

Sales Taxes

Recreational Vehicle Tax

Road Toll Booth Taxes

School Tax

State Income Tax

State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)

Telephone federal excise tax

Telephone federal universal service fee tax

Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes

Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax

Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax

Telephone state and local tax

Telephone usage charge tax

Toll Bridge Taxes

Toll Tunnel Taxes

Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)

Trailer registration tax

Utility Taxes

Vehicle License Registration Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft registration Tax

Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax



Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had no national debt, we had the largest middle class in the world, and mom was able to stay home to raise the kids.



What Happened?!?!?

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Cynthetiq

don't forget the other FEES and SURCHARGES...

and one tax you didn't list... GROSS RECEIPTS TAX, it's the one that you get to pay for the phone companies gross receipts so that they don't have to pay as much taxes.

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Peryn

Yes, taxes have increased immeasurably. We are bringing infinately more into teh government now than we ever have before.

Whats not listed is expenditures. 100 years ago did anyone hear of a school? How many actually went? Anyone subsidize farmers back then?

What happened as we grew as a country and needed more money for the more programs that we got involved in. I dont think the increase in the amount of taxes is too disproportional to the amount of expenses. Maybe thats just me though.

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filtherton

Try to list the benefits we ALL get from taxes. Betcha can't.

eple

No dudes and dudettes, the government have no extra spendings, they just collect the taxes and bury our money under the white house, for no reason whatsoever.

Lebell

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lurkette

Here's some info from The Straight Dope on how U.S. taxes (around 2000) compare to the rest of the world:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/001201.html

I just can't muster up the strength to debate this, so I'll just say that in general, you pay for things one way or another, and who's to say that taxation isn't as good a way of doing it as any other, at least for some things.

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Food Eater Lad

And dont forget to vote democrat so that more inepte social programs can beformed and taxes can be raised!

JBX

Holy Crap. Can anyone spare a dime...

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chavos

That does nothing to prove causation. Not to mention that laundry listing taxes says nothing about the amount at which they are set. Also implicit in your arguement is that we are too far right on the laffer curve, and that if taxes were lowered, we would have better economic progress. Well, that my friend, is called reaganomics...and we tried it once. We're trying it again. I have no expectation that it will work any better than the miserable failure we had under Reagan.

WhoaitsZ

here... take fifthteen cents ro cover the tax oon it.
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State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)

that cinfused me. pay taxes if not employed? ummmmm

WhoaitsZ

filtherton

If we could only get some tax relief to the richest one percent, cause lord knows, they need more.

Conclamo Ludus

As much as I dislike being taxed. Its not the quantity of the money being taken out, its the quality of what the money is being used for. I'm not anti-social services completely, but I always find it shocking how much money is pissed away on things that it could've helped elsewhere.

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Nizzle

Okay fair enough. Now, can you tell me how many of the following agencies and services required funding 100 years ago? Which of these do you consider unimportant and why?

Thanks.

US Bureau of Customs and Border Protection
US Department of Education
US Department of Transportation
Federal Aviation Administration
National Child Care Information Center
US Small Business Administration
Office of Child Support Enforcement
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)
US Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
Department of Veterans Affairs
US Department of Health and Human Services
Food and Drug Administration
Food Safety and Inspection Service
US Social Security Administration (Welfare Reform)
US Census Bureau
US Department of Labor
Department of Commerce
Temporary Assistance to Needy Families - Office of Family Assistance
National Criminal Justice Reference Service (NCJRS)
US Fish and Wildlife
Administration for Children and Families
US Department of Agriculture
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
National Technical Information Service (NTIS)
US Department of Agriculture
Food and Consumer Service
Agency for Health Care Policy and Research
Consumer Information
Children's Bureau (CB)
Child Care Bureau (CCB)
Family and Youth Services Bureau (FYSB)
Office of Community Services Division of Tribal Services
Employment and Training Administration
US Health Care Financing Administration

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Nizzle

Also, for the record, I think your comment to the effect that times were better because women were staying home to raise babies instead of pursuing careers is utterly tactless. Women don't stay home to raise your babies because they don't want to.

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seretogis

You are correct. Some parents do not raise their children correctly because they do not want to.

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WhoaitsZ

Nizzle

Keep in mind that Customs agents work to prevent a deluge of weapons and drugs, not only illegal immigrants. I don't think America would be very safe if we didn't do anything to regulate what comes in. In spirit I agree with you, but I think the solution is to have a reformed, more compassionate immigration policy; not having Customs or border patrol at all is a bad idea. Especially now that Bush has made America the enemy of the world.

A high-level agency that oversees all the various aspects of transportation (statistics, laws, interagency operability). Here are some more services that they oversee.

http://regs.dot.gov/about/list.htm

OSHA is a critical protector of worker's rights in America. It is this group that is responsible for the laws that require companies to provide a safe working environment, and training. You might think that companies would do this on their own, but you would be absolutely wrong. The hazards of many production-style jobs are numerous, and it is often expensive to protect and inform the disposable workforce. OSHA is famous for enforcing the requirement that companies provide a reference book to employees that lists every chemical they might come in contact with or be expected to use, which outlines its potential hazards and long-term exposure effects. You can not trust a corporation to do this, and there are many expamples of workers getting the shaft on this count.

This is OSHA's mission statement from its website (http://osha.gov):

OSHA's mission is to ensure safe and healthful workplaces in America. Since the agency was created in 1971, workplace fatalities have been cut in half and occupational injury and illness rates have declined 40 percent. At the same time, U.S. employment has doubled from 56 million workers at 3.5 million worksites to 111 million workers at 7 million sites.

http://www.ncjrs.org/

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I'm shocked that the right-wing pundits of TFP have nothing but silence on this subject. Aren't you going to tell me how these services are all Liberal hair-brained schemes to waste people's money and promote communism?

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seretogis

So, by this logic, should no one protect their borders? Since the dawn of man, we have been fighting, raping, and killing each other over land. It's not just the nasty American pigs that have been doing so. :P

Border protection is purely a matter of self-preservation, and I don't see it as being hypocritical.

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Bill O'Rights

Whoa, whoa, whoa and whoa! I originally put this in Tilted Humor, because I thought it was funny. Jadzia Dax thought it to be more political in nature, and subsequently moved it here. I thought that it was worth a chuckle or two, not a debate on the worthiness, fairness and effectiveness of taxation. Jeez, and I thought I was wound too tight...lighten up guys. It was supposed to be a fricken' joke, for cryin' out loud.

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sky_driver

Ok, ok, please stop... it is just too taxing. Personally there should be just one tax... a consumption tax. And a special tax for CEO's who make more than one million dollars a year.

onetime2

NOW I think it belongs in the humor section. That's too funny.

WhoaitsZ

dude. quit moaning my name. :P

Nizzle thanks much for the info and explanation instead of calling me stupid and keep going

apreciated