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Old 09-27-2003, 02:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush religious speeches

I'm doing a 12 page paper about Bush and the religious terminology he uses in his speeches. Does anyone know of a government website I can go to that has any of his public adresses? I've been searching and have had a tough time. All I have been able to come up with was this state of the union address and his press confrences.

Also, any other info you have that may be helpful would be much appreciated.
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Old 09-27-2003, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you've looked at whitehouse.gov, right?
For his other public speeches, search Lexis-Nexis or just Google.
also, check out this page(some links at the bottom):

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionande...k623/news.html
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Old 09-27-2003, 03:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks. yea whitehouse.gov is where all of his press conferences are.
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Old 09-28-2003, 11:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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you've looked at whitehouse.gov, right?
For his other public speeches, search Lexis-Nexis or just Google.
also, check out this page(some links at the bottom):

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionande...k623/news.html
Wow, thanks for that link. I had been curious about finding stuff like this, but never gave it too much thought. Glad I opened this thread!
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Old 09-28-2003, 12:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That PBS link isn't working for me.

Also, does anyone have anything to say about the topic if Bush and his explicit use of religion in speeches and how it also affects his decisions about America? I would enjoy a discussion to help me with my paper.
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Old 09-28-2003, 12:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Also, does anyone have anything to say about the topic if Bush and his explicit use of religion in speeches and how it also affects his decisions about America? I would enjoy a discussion to help me with my paper.
There is nothing wrong with an elected official using religious references in speeches. As long as he doesn't start a "Department of the Church of America" (sotospeak), it's fine. The constitution protects our freedom of religion, not our freedom from religion.
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Old 09-28-2003, 10:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm sure that most, if not all, of the religious terminology Bush uses in speaches are generic references to a God. God bless the USA, a nation led by God, etc. When pushed in an interview he will admit he's a Jesus guy, but I don't remember any specific religious references in a public speach. I personally don't want to hear a President bringing a God into it at all. He/She can pray and ask for help from who ever she/he wants on his/her own time, that's her/his business. When she/he stands up and gives a speach to the Nation, Congress, the U.N., etc. he's/she's representing ALL the people and has a job to do. To pander to those that believe in a God is misrepresentation to those that don't. To protect freedom Of religion, you must protect freedom From religion, regarding public stuff.
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Old 09-28-2003, 10:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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To pander to those that believe in a God is misrepresentation to those that don't. To protect freedom Of religion, you must protect freedom From religion, regarding public stuff.
I disagree. Please explain how protecting "freedom From religion" is at all beneficial to protecting others "freedom Of religion."
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Old 09-29-2003, 04:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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you've looked at whitehouse.gov, right?
Nah...I much prefer to whitehouse.com.
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Old 09-29-2003, 07:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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To protect freedom Of religion, you must protect freedom From religion, regarding public stuff.
Let's get the logic straight- "Freedom Of" does not equate to "Freedom From". "Freedom Of" equates to an opinion in any form, which means denial of the existence of God is still freedom of religious expression, no different from expressing belief in God. No one can expect protection from the Constitution for either opinion.
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Old 09-29-2003, 10:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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There is nothing wrong with an elected official using religious references in speeches. As long as he doesn't start a "Department of the Church of America" (sotospeak), it's fine. The constitution protects our freedom of religion, not our freedom from religion.
Too late! we already have a department of faith.

http://www.whitehouse.org/dof/index.asp

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Old 09-29-2003, 12:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Too late! we already have a department of faith.

http://www.whitehouse.org/dof/index.asp

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Old 09-29-2003, 12:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I got a kick out of...

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-SARS: God's Advanced Weapon of Mass Destruction
-USDOF ACTION ALERT: The Make-Believe World of Harry Potter Is Driving Children to the Edge of Insanity!
-"How Does Our Christian Nation Benefit by Defending Hell-Bound Jews?"
or my personal favorites

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-The Sickening Truth About SpongeBoy PenisFace
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Old 09-30-2003, 03:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Bush did start something like a department of faith. He has one for faith-based and community organizations. Isn't a community organization the same as a faith based one? Why even include that in the name? He says that he's doing it so that communities can get charity from people besides the government, so why not give money to charities? If a "faith-based" organization gives charity, then it should qualify as one? Therefore Bush could just support "charities."
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Old 10-02-2003, 04:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Something interesting to think about: Bush does not consider Wicca a religion although they believe in a unifying power. I wonder how they work into his faith-based initiative...
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