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Old 01-10-2004, 02:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Have you ever killed anyone?

I havent, although I did once ride on a bus that knocked a woman down and she died.

But this whole forum is about weapons, so I am wondering, how many of the people who post here have ever killed someone?
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Old 01-10-2004, 02:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-10-2004, 02:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, Im not sure it makes so much sense asking people here, but have you?
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Old 01-10-2004, 04:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 01-10-2004, 05:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, I did kill Jon Alvy (pabaah.com) in a dream of mine in fact he dies in a lot of my dreams...

All kidding aside is that troll picture from the dragonball universe ?
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Old 01-10-2004, 07:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 01-10-2004, 08:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I've come close, but never have, if I end up in the military or maybe another type of service where I have to kill someone I'll let you know as soon as I do.
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Old 01-10-2004, 08:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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And this has to do with politics, how?

Maybe if the thread title was "Have you ever assassinated anyone?"

(just teasing, Lebell )
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Old 01-10-2004, 09:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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And this has to do with politics, how?

Maybe if the thread title was "Have you ever assassinated anyone?"

(just teasing, Lebell )

Better than "Weapons" which is where it started.

Given Strange Famous' posts to date, I thought Politics proper.

But have no fear, I'm keeping an eye on this thread to see what happens
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Old 01-10-2004, 09:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This could be a philosophical question also:

Every thought, every relationship we have simultaneously affirms something and negates another. I kill people every day by not giving them a thought.

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Old 01-11-2004, 10:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have to question the logic of this thread in the first place. I don't mean in the traditional "duhh, wouldn't you be in jail, duh" kind of base answer, but to the effect of, who would ever mention or discuss something like this over the internet or otherwise, as though you're casually mentioning it in passing? even if it was, say, a case of manslaughter and you were acquitted, would you really go around discussing how you were at least partially responsible for killing someone? maybe as a form of cathartic release, but yeeesh, it's a morbid topic to touch on.
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Old 01-11-2004, 10:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There are other possible circumstances I can think of, specifically we have several members past and present of the Armed Forces as members.

It is also possible that someone has had to shoot someone in self defense.

Both, while not cause for celebration, would also not be cause for shame.


To answer the question, no.

And with luck and God's help, I never will have to.

But don't break into my house in the middle of the night.
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Would I kill someone? In the right circumstances I would. This would mainly concern my own or my family's survival.

Do I believe in killing? No.
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Old 01-12-2004, 08:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Would I kill someone? In the right circumstances I would. This would mainly concern my own or my family's survival.

Do I believe in killing? No.
I have nothing to add other than the fact that i second skysooners position. My life being what it is currently, i have no reason to use violence to solve my problems. I do however see that violence and killing are sometimes made a neccessity by the cause of survival.
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Old 01-12-2004, 09:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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There are other possible circumstances I can think of, specifically we have several members past and present of the Armed Forces as members.

Wow, that thought never even crossed my mind...Shows how MY brain works, ha. I guess i was just considering the issue from a domestic, non-gun related stance. Good point, Lebell. Although, like i said, i'm still not sure if it's the kind of topic one would bring up under such circumstances as this.
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Old 01-12-2004, 01:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I will say here the same thing I tell people I have just met and they find out I am a retired Marine.

They seem to ask that question right away.

All I say is that I have been in combat, you draw your own conclusions.
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Old 01-12-2004, 02:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 01-12-2004, 02:55 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Never had a reason to kill someone so far, and considering the way I live my life and where I live it, I probably won't ever have to cross that bridge.
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Old 01-13-2004, 07:11 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 01-13-2004, 09:51 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Never killed anyone. I did find a dead body in the bush that had been there for 7 months though. It was pretty nasty.
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Old 01-13-2004, 10:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Would I kill someone? In the right circumstances I would. This would mainly concern my own or my family's survival.

Do I believe in killing? No.
this seems a little hypocritical to say. You have to believe in killing if you would do it to protect yourself or your family. If you did not believe in killing, you would not kill in any circumstance.
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Old 01-14-2004, 06:56 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I guess what I am saying is that short of my own personal survival or my family's survival, I don't believe that violence rising to this level is justified. It is sort of like adultery. I realize that there are some situations in which it might be justified, but I don't choose to approve of it unless there are certain very limited circumstances. It isn't like anyone needs my approval anyway. Over the years, I have developed my own beliefs and biases. I try not to condemn people. I try to live my own life and treat people the way I want to be treated.

I'm excluding anything dealing with military issues as it is absolutely necessary to kill in those situations. This was well pointed on in this thread. However, I absolutely don't believe in killing when it involves something short of danger to me or the ones I love.
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Old 01-15-2004, 03:36 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Sort of.

When I was 17 our house was broken into and i managed to get into my parents' room and tell my dad. This was before I owned my own firearm. He got his pistol and told me to stay where I was with my mom. I could hear what was going on. He held the burglar at gunpoint, he drew a weapon, shots were exchanged, though i wasn't sure who was firing at what time. All i know as that my dad shot him twice in the chest and called 911 and that he died in in the hospital the next day.

my dad had no regrets about it and i wouldn't have either. A complete act of self defense.
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Old 01-19-2004, 07:22 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I have done drugs, so I guess I helped kill a bunch of 12 year old girls in south america.
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Old 01-19-2004, 02:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I have only killed someone in my dreams..that count?
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:46 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 01-21-2004, 01:29 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I did once try to after being severly injured in a stupid, senseless fight- fortunately there were many people around and I was successfuly restrained by them, thus I did not succesfuly finish choking my attacker to death- Enough pain and the reflexes just take over- up till that point they never had been tested to that extent- and the incident caused me to think quite a bit about what having deliberately trained my reflexes to react in this way meant- ultimately I feel both relief and horror- If I need them, I KNOW that I wont hesitate to kill to save myself or my family- on the same hand, there was no hesitation, remorse, or anything else, and that is realy damned scarry- so to put it mildly I now try quite hard to avoid situations that might "trip" that reflex - fortunately that is not so hard in todays world......
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Old 01-21-2004, 02:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I killed someone once, just to watch him die. Then I blinked and missed it. My friends tried to tell me what it was like, but it just wasn't the same.
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Old 01-21-2004, 06:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:04 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Directly? No.

Indirectly, lots. Definitely.

Mmmm, cheap things made in unsafe, sweatshop conditions.

Cheeeaaap.

To go back to the original poster, maybe he DID kill that woman the bus hit... Who knows... Maybe his little bit of weight was just enough to carry the momentum of the bus over from seriously injuring the poor lady to skull crushingly deadalizing her...

Mm?

Whatever.
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Old 01-22-2004, 02:44 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 01-26-2004, 09:17 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 01-27-2004, 06:08 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
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The eagerness and subtlety-I might even say, shrewdness- with which the problem of "the real and the apparent world" is to day killing all over / in and out makes one think and wonder; and anyone who hears nothing in the background except a "will to truth," certainly does not have the best of ears. In rare and isolate instances it may really be the case that such a will to truth, some extravagant and adventurous courage, a killing technicians ambition to hold a hopeless position, may participate and ultimately prefer even a handful of "certainty" to a whole carload of beautiful possibilities; there may actually be puritanical fanatics of conscience who prefer even a certain nothing to an uncertain something to lie down on - and die. But this is nihilism and the sign of a despairing, mortally weary soul - however courageous the gestures of such a virtue may look. It seems, however, to be otherwise with stronger and livelier thinkers who are still eager for life. When they side against appearance, and speak of "perspective," with a new arrogance; when they rank the credibility of their own bodies about as low as the credibility of the visual evidence that "the earth stands still," and thus, apparently in good humor, let their securest possession go (for in what does one at present believe more firmly than in one's body?) -who knows if they are not trying at bottom to win back something that was formerly an even securer possession, something of the ancient domain of the faith of former times, perhaps the "immortal soul," perhaps "the old God," in short, ideas by which one could live better, that is to say, more vigorously and cheerfully than by "modern ideas"? There is mistrust of these modern ideas in this attitude, a disbelief in all that has been constructed yesterday and today; there is perhaps some slight admixture of satiety and scorn, unable to endure any longer the bric-a-brac of concepts of the most diverse origin, which is the form in which so-called positivism offers itself on the market today; a disgust of the more fastidious taste at the village-fair motleyness and patchiness of all these reality-killers in whom there is nothing new or genuine, except this motleyness. In this, it seems to me, we should agree with these skeptical anti-realists and knowledge microscopists of today: their instinct, which repels them from modern reality, is unrefuted - what do their retrograde bypaths concern us! The main thing about them is not that they wish to go back, but that they wish to get - away. A little more strength, flight, courage, and artistic power. and they would want to rise - not return; furthering alternate natural selection- to be is to do; doo be doo; doo be doo.
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Old 01-30-2004, 07:26 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I would too if it was a matter of self defense or the protection of my family like many of you said............One guy I know that was a Vietnam veteran and he was guarding a fox hole and he was told to shoot whoever popper out....ended up pegging a little girl between the eyes...he's still in therapy....
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Old 01-30-2004, 09:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I don't think it should be anyone's decision to take life, but I think in situations like protection and self defense, instinct takes over and it no longer is a decision.
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Old 01-31-2004, 06:26 AM   #38 (permalink)
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want to make this a politics thread- try this

did you vote for W.?

if so....answer yes to this thread.
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Old 01-31-2004, 03:56 PM   #39 (permalink)
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want to make this a politics thread- try this

did you vote for W.?

if so....answer yes to this thread.
Wow, that's awesome. I'm definately not a W supporter, but even this made me wince a little when I read it.

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want to make this a politics thread- try this

did you vote for W.?

if so....answer yes to this thread.

Don't do this anymore.

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