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Old 02-17-2004, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BBC edits out quote making liberal press look bad

I read this story in its original form this morning and almost choked at how blatantly it showed the left wing media bias towards Kerry. Then they changed it. Rush happened to catch the change on the air, so here is what they did.

The removed quote (under mainstream media defense). Note this is the Washinton Post correspondant (go figure).


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"All we have at the moment is the woman's parents who are Republicans and don't like Senator Kerry."

“In any case, nobody would be too shocked if Kerry lied about an affair. Even if someone came to us with photographs we still wouldn’t run it. Lying to Don Imus [the radio host to whom Kerry gave his initial denial] is not a federal offence”
Had to retype it myself as its a scan of a printout, link is here...
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/pdf/BBC021604.pdf

and here is the current version..

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/pdf/BBC021704.pdf

Amusingly they removed that and put in a blurb about the photoshopped Kerry/Fonda picture which made it briefly around the internet a few days back.

Guess the first bit was a bit to close to the truth to keep in?
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Old 02-17-2004, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know this is your baby, but one or two examples of unethical action by a few people scattered throughout the news industry does not a liberal bias make.

Get over it. Need i remind you of your source? Do you know how odd it sounds to complain about media bias whilst quoting rush limbaugh?

I know you ignore me so i'll just post this for other people.
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Old 02-17-2004, 06:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I sure am glad that Coulter, Fox News and Rush are moderates standing strong against the liberal media bias. I see a revision in a newspaper, you see the liberal media bias boogie-man.

[troll] Rush is a big, fat liar who is too drugged up to understand even the basics of politics [/troll]

Now that I got it out of the way no one else has to say it.
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Old 02-17-2004, 06:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Seriously. Quoting Rush Limbaugh to make a point about Liberal Bias. What in the hell?

When are people going to stop linking extremist op/ed articles as if it were proof of something other than the fact that they can't come to their own conclusions.
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Old 02-17-2004, 07:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I guess given that the WHOLE KERRY IS HAVING AN AFFAIR STORY TURNED OUT TO BE A HUGE LIE PERPETRATED BY DRUDGE, the only way to keep the story going is by making up some strange media bias story.

Points to Rush Limbaugh for creativity on this one. However, I missed Rush's outrage when the White House edited the official White House transcript, removing Ari Fleischer's famouse "watch what you say" statement.

http://www.buzzflashcom.bigstep.com/generic.html?pid=55

Now, can you just admit that the whole Kerry affair story was a desparate lie perpetrated by a right-wing puppet using quotes from a british tabloid?
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Old 02-18-2004, 05:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think ustwo has already moved on to bigger and brighter things.
For shame!
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I think ustwo has already moved on to bigger and brighter things.
I suppose that it is too much to hope that he has seen his own folly, and has quietly backed down? Who am I kidding?

I feel that all of you have covered the point of using Rush as a source, to point out a liberal bias, very well. I thought the same, when I first saw this post yesterday, but I have found that sometimes it's best for me to just leave it alone for awhile and come back later, after I've cooled off.

Of course there is a bias in the media. It's called marketing, and neither liberals, nor conservatives, have a monopoly on it. The media is going to bend toward their target audience, and as such, employ the use of journalists/pundits with that bent. It's the money that speaks the loudest in the media, not political leanings.
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Old 02-18-2004, 09:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh kids, don't think because I didn't post right away I went anywhere, I do have other things to do.

Anyways, what I realized, after I posted this, is that when I read the story they had already taken out the same girls parents are republicans line, but kept the 'we wouldn't run it anyways' line. Then they took out the whole thing.

Guys this has nothing to do with the source, the source is the BBC not Rush Limbaugh. I happened to be listening when he saw the change, but its not faked, I saw it myself. Nor would Rush fake something that obvious and put it on his website, get real kids.

And the best part is both stories have the same time stamp, they wanted those lines OUT and they didn't want anyone to notice.

And finally, the issue isn't if Kerry had an affair or not. The issue is the Washington Post reporter saying they wouldn't run the story EVEN if they had proof of the affair.
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Old 02-18-2004, 09:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Ustwo, no one is accusing Rush of "faking it". This time. I'm certain that the whole incident is quite true. All I'm saying is that even you have to to see the irony in quoting Rush Limbaugh on media bias. I really don't think that you could've possibly picked a worse source, to illustrate your point. But, I do get it, though. Read the last paragraph, of my last post. Certainly, Ustwo, not even you would would question the validity of that statement.
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Old 02-18-2004, 09:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Um, the reporter said he wouldn't run the story EVEN if they had PHOTOGRAPHS. He never said he would deny the story with proof.

Photographs are no longer proof. They can be easily manipulated in an almost undetectable way (unless your career is digital photography and manipulation) And just getting photos doesn't mean a thing because photos do not prove that when you were with the woman or doing whatever, that it was at a story-worthy time.
To just run with any old pictures that someone SAYS is from an extramarital affair, fully knowing that Kerry was a playboy as he was between marriages, is irresponsible. No reputable paper would do so. Which surprises me, since it is from the ultra conservative rag of Sun Myung Moon. I guess a reporter with ethics slipped through the cracks.

You saying this...
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And finally, the issue isn't if Kerry had an affair or not. The issue is the Washington Post reporter saying they wouldn't run the story EVEN if they had proof of the affair.
Is twisting the words of someone else that shows you truly are a student of the Limbaugh Institute of Conservative Studies.

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a reference to those words:
Even if someone came to us with photographs we still wouldn’t run it.

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Old 02-18-2004, 09:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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See, this:

(Kerry standing at a podium with Jane Fonda)
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp

Is a cheap fake photo, and it still fooled several news agencies and conservatives to run with it last week.

A good fake could do worse, so any credible journalist would only use a picture with hard evidence to go along with it.

And evidence is something noone had when they ran with the now debunked kerry affair.
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Old 02-18-2004, 10:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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OK...ya had me...until this statement.

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I guess a reporter with ethics slipped through the cracks.
"Reporter" and "ethics" is grammatically incorrect, when used in the same sentence. My wife was a journalism major, and she told me so.
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Old 02-18-2004, 11:53 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Bill, I hate your avatar.

Too damn distracting.
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Old 02-18-2004, 11:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Bill, I hate your avatar.

Too damn distracting.
Hey now, don't be disrespectin' the goddess, that is...Alyson.
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Old 02-26-2004, 05:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Hey now, don't be disrespectin' the goddess, that is...Alyson.
It wasn't disrespect.

It was the problem that, I was thinking up a reply to this post, and then I saw your avatar, and I ended up not thinking about the reply anymore. =p
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