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Old 02-23-2004, 03:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Follow up, The Presidential rib sale

Now some of you may recall the Bush haters on this board commenting on some clip of the President buying ribs and then not leaving a tip. Well here is the full story and its pretty funny.

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Remarks by the President to the Press Pool
Nothin' Fancy Cafe
Roswell, New Mexico

11:25 A.M. MST

THE PRESIDENT: I need some ribs.

Q Mr. President, how are you?

THE PRESIDENT: I'm hungry and I'm going to order some ribs.

Q What would you like?

THE PRESIDENT: Whatever you think I'd like.

Q Sir, on homeland security, critics would say you simply haven't spent enough to keep the country secure.

THE PRESIDENT: My job is to secure the homeland and that's exactly what we're going to do. But I'm here to take somebody's order. That would be you, Stretch — what would you like? Put some of your high-priced money right here to try to help the local economy. You get paid a lot of money, you ought to be buying some food here. It's part of how the economy grows. You've got plenty of money in your pocket, and when you spend it, it drives the economy forward. So what would you like to eat?

Q Right behind you, whatever you order.

THE PRESIDENT: I'm ordering ribs. David, do you need a rib?

Q But Mr. President —

THE PRESIDENT: Stretch, thank you, this is not a press conference. This is my chance to help this lady put some money in her pocket. Let me explain how the economy works. When you spend money to buy food it helps this lady's business. It makes it more likely somebody is going to find work. So instead of asking questions, answer mine: are you going to buy some food?

Q Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Okay, good. What would you like?

Q Ribs.

THE PRESIDENT: Ribs? Good. Let's order up some ribs.

Q What do you think of the democratic field, sir?

THE PRESIDENT: See, his job is to ask questions, he thinks my job is to answer every question he asks. I'm here to help this restaurant by buying some food. Terry, would you like something?

Q An answer.

Q Can we buy some questions?

THE PRESIDENT: Obviously these people — they make a lot of money and they're not going to spend much. I'm not saying they're overpaid, they're just not spending any money.

Q Do you think it's all going to come down to national security, sir, this election?

THE PRESIDENT: One of the things David does, he asks a lot of questions, and they're good, generally.

END 11:29 A.M. MST
Thats the transcript, and now from Snopes.

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Origins: This transcript, archived at the White House web site,
certainly reads as one of the more unusual Presidential press conferences in recent memory. But much of the oddness stems from the fact that the transcript provides no context for the remarks contained therein; a little background helps to make it more understandable.

After delivering his State of the Union address on 20 January 2004, President Bush undertook a two-day, three-state swing through Ohio, Arizona, and New Mexico. The morning of 22 January found the President in Roswell, New Mexico, where he delivered a 40-plus minute speech at the town's Convention and Civic Center in front of 1,800 cadets from the New Mexico Military Institute, law enforcement officers studying at the International Law Enforcement Academy's graduate center and the Federal Law Enforcement Training center, and local residents.

The President wrapped up his speech a bit before 11:30 AM, and he then surprised many Roswell residents by sending his motorcade to the Nuthin' Special Cafe on Main Street — described as "a local eatery known more for its 50-cent beer than its food" — for lunch. After entering the restaurant and shaking some hands, the President decided to give the local economy a boost by strolling behind the counter and cajoling members of the traveling press into ordering some food. A couple of White House correspondents, David Gregory of NBC (referred to in the transcript as "Stretch") and Terry Moran of ABC, tried to turn the occasion into an impromptu press conference, but President Bush held firm, stating in no uncertain terms that he was there to take food orders, not to answer questions from the press.

According to cafe owner Armando Aceves, the President ordered pork ribs and buttermilk pie and autographed a menu. However, Jim Lakely of the Washington Times, a designated pool reporter for the Roswell trip, noted that the President was unsuccessful in convincing the reporters in question to purchase any ribs themselves. Once President Bush and his entourage were back on-board Air Force One with their take-out orders, someone from the White House staff sent some ribs back to the press corps. There wasn't enough to go around, though.

A letter writer to the Albuquerque Journal lated noted that President Bush did not leave a tip when he departed. But, as that newspaper reported, the Nuthin' Fancy Cafe staff still ended up with a larger payment than they were expecting:

"But you don't expect a tip from take-out," said Beverly Patterson, one of the servers who helped with the president's order of ribs, corn bread, butter and honey.

"And how many other people can say they had the pleasure and honor of having the president visit their place?" adds Patterson, who has worked at the cafe for three years.

Bush paid for the order with $30 in cash.

Patterson says the president called later from Air Force One and said, "You didn't charge me enough, and I'm going to send more money."

But Edward Zavala, Nuthin' Fancy's manager, says he told the president they didn't want any more money.

"We were willing to give him the meal free, but the president wanted to pay," Zavala adds. "We didn't care for the money. This was a once-in-a-lifetime deal."

Last updated: 19 February 2004
Yes our evil President didn't even take a free meal when offered, and tried to help out and have fun. Apparently having fun is something the press core can't quite grasp. They were most likely horrified to be in such a place to start with. You see this is a tiny piece of why Bush is so loved by so many Americans. He is REAL, he just does these things, he doesn't make a big deal about it like the dem candidates did making pancakes in Iowa. He sees something like a bunch of reporters in a rib place, not ordering, and he gives them a gentile jab about it. I personally think he was somewhat offended that they would take up space in the restaurant without ordering, and wanted to help the woman out. Almost everyone who knows Bush personally comes off with the same impression of him, someone who likes and cares about people, and I think that’s why you on the left just don't get it. You are so used to phony's just saying the right thing, and waving to the camera that you can no longer identify the genuine article.

And then to add an insult just for the sake of making an insult, the left turns the whole thing into a 'he didn't leave a tip' aka 'he is a cheap bastard who doesn't care about the working man' piece. That my friends is a pretty pathetic thing to do.



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Old 02-23-2004, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Now that was cool
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Classic, just classic. Reminds me of that scene in Shrek where Donkey is just bothering the hell out of Shrek (when they first meet).
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Interesting but it's not like left wingers have been blasting Bush for being unmannerly. I don't see why he needs defending.
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Old 02-23-2004, 07:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Interesting but it's not like left wingers have been blasting Bush for being unmannerly. I don't see why he needs defending.
Really?

I'm glad my memory is longer.

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Old 02-24-2004, 10:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I care less about his lack of tipping. For me the tape made him look ingnorant and a bit of a buffoon in regards to the answering of the reporters questions.
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Old 02-27-2004, 11:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I care less about his lack of tipping. For me the tape made him look ingnorant and a bit of a buffoon in regards to the answering of the reporters questions.
But that's just being on par for Bush. The lack of tip (when he's a multi-millionaire) for takeout is kind of funny. I've all but dropped this, it could have honestly never entered his mind to leave a tip for his meal.
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Old 02-27-2004, 02:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Can't they let the man get some dinner and then interrogate him?

I would've just ordered some ribs and been happy with the chance to eat lunch with the president, whether or not I like him.

Although it would be nice if he did leave a tip
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