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Old 06-30-2004, 08:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hillary for Veep?

Drudge is reporting this morning that Hillary will be Kerry's running mate:

VICE PRESIDENT HILLARY; SPECULATION INTENSIFIES IN WASHINGTON

Official Washington and the entire press corps will be rocked when Hillary Rodham Clinton is picked as Kerry's VP and a massive love fest will begin!

So predicts a top Washington insider, who spoke to the DRUDGE REPORT on condition he not be named.

"All the signs point in her direction," said the insider, one of the most influential and well-placed in the nation's capital. "It is the solution to every Kerry problem."

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"There are three issues that this campaign will be decided on -- national security, health care, and the economy, not necessarily in that order."

"Kerry believes that no one is better on national security than he is, he served in Vietnam after all, so he has that covered and the suggestion that he needs to strengthen the ticket with someone who has national security credentials is dismissed as foolish."

The insider continues: "The Democrats feel like health care is the domestic issue. But how to make it the dominant topic of conversation -- break through war and terrorism? Hillary Clinton. She catapults it out front with her commission. She tried to provide health care before and the Republicans in congress attacked her and her husband and used a bunch of scandals dirty tricks to stop it, we know they are scandals and dirty tricks because the former president book says so. So now you have the number two person on the ticket who is a 'health care expert' and what will Republicans do? Attack on health care pointing to her commission saying that it was government medicine. Her response -- it wasn't, and the Republicans are a bunch of dirty tricksters, "Liars and Crooks," as Kerry calls them, and its been too long and Democrats wont let the Republicans do it to them again. By the way, it puts prescription drugs on the back burner, the Republicans health care ace. You will have a fully engaged national debate on health care from now until the election."

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"The Democrats economic plan is to say Bush sucks, it's never enough, we must get back to the Clinton Era when 22 million jobs were created. You can't do much better at making that point then-- Kerry/Clinton 2004.

"But what about impeachment and Monica -- wont that overshadow her being picked? It' now been covered in the book. Not only that, but she is a women scorned who has dealt with what so many American women deal with and stuck it out to keep her family together. And Whitewater? It's in the book. Vince Foster? Book. Billing records, White House travel Office? Book, book. All have been covered. All Republican slime tactics.

"Why would Kerry make such a public spectacle about trying to get John Mccain, wont whoever you pick be considered a second choice. Not if it is Hillary!

"There are differences of opinion about how this election will be won but one school says its all about the base. Republicans are bumping up against the ceiling with support from their base and Democrats are sitting on the floor. This would change that.

"Official Washington and national media will fall in love with the idea immediately letting Kerry/Clinton dominate the news through July and up to the Republican convention. She will say she is doing it for the good of the country. I am convinced this is going to happen."

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"But what Hillary about having to wait to run for president? If Bush wins then she is the nominee for 2008 because it will be all Kerry's fault. If she wins she is the first woman VP of the United States, which would help her become the first woman president of the U.S. It would be historic in its own right and change the nature of politics in this country, and mark her place in the history books for ever-- a different history than her husbands."

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I am on the fence as to whether or not Hillary would help or hurt Kerry. If she does join his ticket, this is an indication that the Clintons think Bush is very weak and beatable. Hillary will not run unless she feels very certain of a victory.
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Old 06-30-2004, 08:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think she might hurt the ticket really. I have nothing against her but so many people really hate her, she's up there with Michael Moore!
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hilary on the ticket? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha God we Dems want to freakin self destruct don't we? I loved Bill I can't stand the Ice Queen.

No, I don't think Kerry would do that. I think he's going for Edwards. Putting Hilary on the ticket would do to Kerry what posing in a tank did to Dukakis in '88, and if Kerry did take Hilary, then I know the Dems had no desire to ever win and I will for the 2nd consecutive election vote for Nader.

Of course the source is Dredge.... I mean Drudge and he's a kook, and most of what he says is based on half truths, rumors and innuendo.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That is my gut reaction as well. The Clintons, whatever one may think of them, are incredibly shrewd politicians. I just don't see Hillary taking the risk of being on a failing ticket. It makes me wonder what they have up their sleeves.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think it would be revolutionary, simply because it would be one step closer to having a female President. And I don't think it would hurt them too much; Kerry would practically have to choose Hitler as Veep to get me to vote for Bush.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Then you may have to reconsider. Hillary is a fascist in a pastel designer pantsuit, as far as I am concerned.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:11 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Although the Veep doesn't weild much power, sooooo actually might be good because she'll be out of the Senate, where she does have power.

Delayed, I'd love to see a woman president, and we shall soon I feel, BUT Hilary is not the one.

She's not a fascist, it's just she's a freaking bitch and I truly don't see the GOP and half the Dems. working with her at all if she were Pres. She's power hungry and doesn't want the presidency to better people's lives, she wants it to control people's lives.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hillary is an ideologue - and a fascist one at that.

She promotes increased centralized control of the the economy and citizens' lives, and has no respect for private property.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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How long before the theories that the Clinton's want Hillary as Veep so they can assasinate Kerry? After all didn't Clinton kill off like 50 people in his rise to power?

It wouldn't surprise me if this was a floater from the Clinton's themselves. Generate some publicity from something they're not really involved much in. Keeps her name out there in the public's mind.

I seriously doubt that Kerry would go this route. I also doubt that it will be Edwards. I suspect it will be another relatively popular somewhat known and well liked Senator or Governor from a battleground state.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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For all intents and purposes, Hilary would be suicide for Kerry's election hopes. She would alienate any moderates and many conservative Dems as well as rally the republican vote. And as far as electoral voting goes Edwards is a way better fit because he is charasmatic and southern which would compliment Kerry and his pompous Noreastern image.

Besides we all know Hillary wants the office for herself, if she were to put herself up for VP it would complicate her chances if not postpone them indefinetly.
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For all intents and purposes, Hilary would be suicide for Kerry's election hopes. She would alienate any moderates and many conservative Dems as well as rally the republican vote. And as far as electoral voting goes Edwards is a way better fit because he is charasmatic and southern which would compliment Kerry and his pompous Noreastern image.

Besides we all know Hillary wants the office for herself, if she were to put herself up for VP it would complicate her chances if not postpone them indefinetly.
Couldn't agree more.
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