jorgelito

Oh, ok. Cool. It just sounded...weird. Like something happened...

Um, is that Treebeard in your avatar?

Willravel

But you'll still post, yes?

Lebell

Just to clarify,

I am just one cog in the TFP machine.

Members can contact any mod regarding anything in the site.

I personally appreciate the hard hard work tecoyah has done in here (a place where many fear to tread) and I don't begrudge him any break he decides he needs.

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Willravel

I'd never begrudge him at all. I don't know the meaning of the word! So I'll look it up....To envy the possession or enjoyment of. Hmmm. Yeah, I'd never begrudge Tecoyah. I understand him needing a brake from keeping an eye on this madhouse.

Rdr4evr

Now I'm screwed!

pinoychink790

don't worry the unverse has a way of fixing itself with free french fries

irateplatypus

bravo.

however, i think the driving factor behind most of the vitriol is the mistaken idea that we're all after the same thing. sometimes it is assumed by both sides of a discussion that all are working towards the same end-state. this is untrue and is a fruitless (dangerous?) premise on which to ground a debate.

another thing that i've come to realize is that not everyone wants successes/victories/justice etc. there are some who, for whatever personal reason, don't want anything good in life. there are people who embrace fear, people who manufacture shame, people who feel entitled to things they did not earn, people who sneer at those who are better and want nothing else but to bring them low, people who exploit the misery of others.

now, i know that disagreement with my own views does not place a person into one of those boxes. i don't equate difference of opinion with such dreadful things... but i do recognize that there are people who do fit such an awful description. i have met people with whom i can find no common ground simply because they desire nothing more than an end to their own miserable existence and the abolition of joy for anyone else.

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If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.

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sob

Can you hear my applause from where you are?

As I've said before, I see no reason to talk to a person who thinks he or she is freely entitled to the labor of others.