iamjero

I just started seeing this chick and she claims to have been "fixed." I was just curious about how I can be sure of it. I do honestly trust her and dont think she is lying, but the stakes are just too high. If she really is incapable of having children "LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!"

She has a little bitty scar in the shape of an X right inside the bottom of her belly buttton and another straight scar just to the inside of her hip bone a couple inches above her pubic hairline.

Anyone know if this is what vasectimy (sp?) scars look like? Oh, and how reliable is it?

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JStrider

lol only guys get vasectimys (sp?)
girls get Tubal Ligation aka getting the tubes tied...

their 100% reliable...

but hey if you just started seeing this girl condoms arnt a bad idea... protects you from stds and all that kinda stuff too...

found a pic for ya... http://scc.uchicago.edu/tubal.jpg

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I'm not sure about the scars, really, but I can tell you that even gettin' the tubes snipped is not a 100% preventive proceedure.

I mean, these scars are likely to be exactly what she says they are, but you can get her pregnant still. There is just a signifigantly smaller chance of that happening if she's telling the truth.

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iamjero

Is it called a historectimy (sp?) when a girl gets fixed?

Already got the STD issue under control, we both got tested. Now on to the second priority... I aint tryin to be no ones baby daddy, and I have never been with a girl that has had her tubes tied, so Im kinda concerned about confirming a few questions. The scars look like medical type scars, but I have to admit my judgement on doctor provided verses nondoctor provided scars aint worth much.

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gariig

If you don't trust her, wear a condom. Seems pretty simple?

Also, a historectimy is when they take out her ovaries. I guess it makes you sterile but it's much worse (no hormones or a reduced amount is one biggie).

Gariig

*Nikki*

When a woman is "fixed" often called "tube tying" she can still get pregnant.

SO keep your boys in a corral.

iamjero

Hmmmmm, well shoot.

Looks like Ill be taking a chance then. Anyone have an idea of what the odds are? They gotta be WAY better than using only a condom.

"If you don't trust her, wear a condom. Seems pretty simple?"

Like I said ... I do trust her, BUT, I have been wrong before and this is one thing I dont want to be wrong about.

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Averett

Umm... Do some research on it. Call up a doctor.

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arch13

I concur. Start by doing reserach on webMD to get an idea of effectivness rates and other possible complications. This isn't just a trust issue, it's a responsability issue and her choice to get her tubes tied does not relieve your joint responsability in helping to avoid pregnancy.
Consult her doctor if needed to better understand what this means about pregnancy occurance. paying a doctor for a half hour of talking is a lot cheaper than a lifetime of child rearing.

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Wise words.

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SabrinaFair

A hysterectomy is removal of the womb, I believe. (hysteron is Greek for the womb) A full hysterectomy is removal of all the internal woman-parts.

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iamjero

Well, I did a lil research and found out that the effectiveness is dependent on how good of a job the doctor did when he tied them. Mostly it depends on weather the girl wanted it to be reversable in the future. If she might want to get "un-fixed" they dont do as thorough of a job and the chance of pregnancy is greater.

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strcrssd

I'd talk to her about it. Realize that no birth control is 100% effective, including tied tubes.

The more protection you use, the lower incidence of pregnancy...

Talk to her and her doctor, and decide if sex is worth the risk (do this as a group: you, her, and her doctor).

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A hysterectomy is the complete removal of the uterus and possibly the ovaries. If that's what she had, there's no possible way that she could get pregnant.

raeanna74

This is correct. - Hysterectomy doesn't usually occur unless there is some medical reason for the removal of the uterus. SOMEtimes they remove all the reproductive parts including the ovaries but that's only for a medical reason. Yes it is a sure way of preventing pregnancy. Many insurance companies won't pay for a hysterectomy for Birth Control alone - there usually has to be other reasons.

The marks you describe sound likely that she is truely "fixed" by tubal ligation. The entry points can be either just above the mons and from the belly button or off to the side above the hip bone like you say she has a mark. Since she is young it may depend on how long ago she had the surgery how clear the marks are. I had a C-section 3 years ago and now there is just a pink line where the incision was made. When it was only a year or so old though it was still tender to the touch or to pulling. It also would itch like crazy. Ligation isn't 100% fool proof but more sure than any other form of Birth control like condoms or pills.

I couldn't help but chuckle when I read that some of you said that a girl getting fixed is a vasectomy or a hysterectomy is only removal of the ovaries.

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Dilbert1234567

I know that no method is perfect, even tying the tubes, generally it is perfect, but some times the body does miraculous things, I’ve herd about vasectomies repairing them selves and I would guess that it could happen here as well, generally though having your tubes tied is complete birth control. You probably know this but this only protects against birth n std's

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prince_albert

Well in an actuall translation in the slicing of the womb, but then again they might not mean that :shrug:

cliche

What you're describing sound a bit like laparoscopy scars (keyhole surgery). Whilst they certainly do a lot of tubal ligation by laparoscopy nowadays; they also do lots of other things so it's sadly impossible just to go on the scars...

If you can get hold of an abdominal X-ray (hell, why not? ) you may be able to see the clips.

We usually quote a success rate of above 99%; these things are not supposed to be reversible and people having them are told that effectively they are not (though in practice it may be possible). Incidentally, vasectomy is much more reliable (about 99.95%). Hysterectomy (yes, removal of the womb, usually ovaries and sometimes cervix at the same time) is pretty reliable though

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iamjero

Thanks everyone.

I really appreciate all the input.

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raeanna74

I'm sorry if I'm being too picky. I just can't resist.

Hysterectomy does not mean simply cutting the womb. I believe that word would be Hysterotomy if that were the case.

Hyster - Etymology: French or Latin; French hystér-, from Latin hyster-, from Greek, from hystera : womb <hysterectomy>

ectomy - Etymology: New Latin -ectomia, from Greek ektemnein to cut out, from ec-, ex- out + temnein to cut : surgical removal <gastrectomy

otomy - Etymology: New Latin -tomia, from Greek, from -tomos that cuts, from ec-, ex- out + temnein to cut : incision : section <laparotomy>

The difference in spelling is simply /ec to /o One means "to cut and remove" the other simply "to cut".

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legolas

Call me old fasioned, but if you can't trust her maybe you shouldn't even be worrying about it.

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Originally posted by raeanna74

Well I am Greek, BUT, my English do suck and I am really bad at reading stuf...I guess you understand Greek better than me!