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Old 06-27-2004, 01:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Phimosis

So I have Phimosis. What is phimosis? "An abnormal constriction of the foreskin that prevents it from being drawn back to uncover the glans penis.". So basically, my foreskin doesn't draw back during an erection. I can pull it back when I'm flaccid, but it is slightly uncomfortable. Absolutely impossible if I'm erect though, and it hurts if I try.

When I was born I was going to be circumcised, but my parents delayed and by the time they asked to have it done, insurance would no longer cover it. Now I'm kind of fucked. My questions are:

Those of you with phimosis, does it affect you in any way during sex? (yes I am a loser who hasn't had sex yet).

Since I have phimosis, will insurance cover the costs of a circumcision?

Has anyone had a circumcision after puberty? (I'm 18 now). How bad was it? How long was the recovery period? Do they give you painkillers?

Is there anything else I can do aside from getting cut that will be able to allow the foreskin to retract?
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Old 06-27-2004, 02:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Phimosis

First off, cut that shit out right now.
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yes I am a loser who hasn't had sex yet
Isn't gonna cut it here. You came to us with some valid medical concerns. I'm not going to address any of them here. You also came with a healthy dose of self loathing and pity. That I will address.

You haven't found the right girl yet. BFD. Happens all the time. I was not 18 when I lost my virginity. Many people are older when it happens, some much older. Sounds to me like a guy stacking all his quarters on the actual event, instead of the girl he will eventually share it with.

So cut it out. You'll meet her, and it will be awkward the first time, but you'll practice a lot, and it will get better for both of you.

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Old 06-27-2004, 02:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks, I was kind of being sarcastic but I tend to forget how well that ends up translating over the internet. I've had the chance to have sex before but turned it down, because as you said it's the girl and not the event itself.

I know it's going to be awkward, I'd like to know whether or not my condition is going to make it hurt like hell due to something breaking and bleeding.
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Old 06-27-2004, 03:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Conservative Treatments of Phimosis

Phimosis: Is Circumcision necessary?

Phimosos and Paraphimosis

Management of Phimosis

Phimosis

The short answer, if erections cause pain, see your doctor. It's probably covered by your health plan, your doc will be able to discuss it. Pain management is always part of any procedure, so yeah, meds are always included. Your doctor will be better able to discuss your options than anyone here.

Good luck.
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Maybe you can get it cut and then grow it back bigger..
I heard some circumsized guys grew their skin back over their head to increase the pleasure.
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Old 06-27-2004, 11:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I heard some circumsized guys grew their skin back over their head to increase the pleasure.
Hah! Yeah. Foreskin is like a beard. Shave it off one week, grow it back the next. That's GENIUS!
I was circumcised during infancy, and I really don't know why growing it back never occured to me. I think I'll get started on that right away!
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Old 06-28-2004, 02:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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A procedure called 'dorsal slit' is an option if you want to keep your foreskin, or possibly a partial circumcision.

http://www.circlist.com/styles/style.html#dorsalslit
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I had exactly the same problem you had, Marine. Do a search for 'phimosis' or 'foreskin' and I'm sure you'll find some posts on this.

My personal advice is to get a doctor to look at it, just to be on the safe side. Don't agree to anything, just get a doctor's opinion.

I had your exact same problem up until two years ago. I first started having sex at age eighteen (at the time she was the right woman) and I didn't enjoy it at all because it hurt when I entered her. The foreskin doesn't retract properly and when it's pulled back it's so tight it hurts.

After that relationship ended and another one began I eventually went to a doctor and he gave me a cream to put on my foreskin twice a day for a week or so. He also said to try and retract it a little more every day. Literally, to stretch it. That, coupled with the cream (if you do a Google or TFP search on 'phimosis' you'll find the name, it's escaped me right now) was all needed. And I'll bet it's all you need, too. Mine doesn't retract by utself when I'm hard, but when I'm hard I can do it myself and everything's fine.

If you don't want to see a doctor then from now on just retract your foreskin as far as it can go without being too painful, hold it there for a few seconds and then leave it. If you do this a number of times it'll stretch properly. If you do want to see a doctor (and I recommend this) then he or she will give you some more specific medical advice.

The most important thing to remember when it comes to sensitive issues like this is that you are almost never alone. I'd never heard of an issue like mine before, and the doctor reassured me that that sort of thing is actually very common.

Just a note: I know some people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and also that if you can get erect, ejaculate, etc., then there's nothing wrong. In my personal experience (and I stress that this may not be your case), when I had sex my foreskin was forced back and stretched so much that it was unbearably painful. Obviously before I'd had sex this wasn't a problem since we're in total control when we masturbate. But the stretching when I had sex was unbearable and led me to see a doctor, who, in turn, helped me find the solution.
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Old 06-28-2004, 09:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
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My foreskin was also tight, Me and my brother are the first in out family not to be circumsized and apparently when you are a kid you are supposed to pull down the forskin to strech it out, something I was never instructed to do. Anyway, I just read a bit about it, talked to a doctor and decided I liked being un cirumsized and just started pulling it down slowly, it only took a couple of weeks to notice it working and its fine now, I have no problems what so ever.
 
Old 06-28-2004, 12:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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man...that seems like a lot of work just to keep from hurting when banging a chick. I'd put up with the week of pain cuttin it off...vs a lifetime of pain and 'pre-stretching' leaving it how it is.
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Old 06-30-2004, 12:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am 21 and recently just rid myself of the phimosis problem. I did not use circumcism. Every morning I would pull my foreskin back as much as I can, then restore it when I am in the shower. Do this repeatedly for like 3+ weeks or so. After you get out of the shower always leave your foreskin back and apply lubricant on it. When it feels like you glans will kill you, restore the foreskin back until your soreness is gone somewhat. Continue this process, it works well on me. Remember to eat lots of vitamins, proteins, and minerals so that your foreskin ring can grow and loosen up faster.

Good Luck!
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Old 09-01-2004, 05:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I've got phimoses and sex is a real bitch. So much so that I'd rather put it off until my SO starts complaining, which is not something a 24 year old should be doing

I can't stretch my foreskin over my glans even when I'm not erect and I'm looking at seeing a doctor about it. I've been putting it off because I was figuring that circumcision was the only option and I'm a bit afraid of that.

On the having sex bit, a condom helps a lot in keeping the foreskin from painful damage but in my case there's almost no sensation and I'm just left doing the work with no reward. This usually means that I go bareback, but the pain for the next 2 - 3 days can be considerable.
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Old 09-01-2004, 03:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Is circumcision an option?
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:39 AM   #14 (permalink)
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wow, i didn't realize how common this was. i think i kinda have the same problem. nobody ever talks about foreskin, and its not really covered in sex ed. a few years back i realized that i could pull it behind my glans even when erect, although it kinda hurt at first. the last few months, i think i might have loosened it a bit. i can now manually retract it behind my glans when erect, but there seems to be a part of it that is still really tight and contricts my shaft. i still pull it back for a minute every day hoping to stretch it. i'd rather not get circumcised, so if i can stretch my foreskin to the appropriate width to not squeeze my shaft when pulled back, i'll be happy.
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Old 12-13-2004, 12:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Have you tried stretching it? It used to be impossible for me to stretch it back when I was erect as well, but after some pain and effort, I managed to work it out.
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Old 12-13-2004, 01:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I used to have that problem when I was younger, but now I can pull the foreskin back when erect with no problems.

You just have to stretch it out a little every day.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ive herd that haveing a forskin greatly increases pleasure, i was circumsized at birth, altho ive been thinking that when i have kids (whenever that will be) to keep them uncircumsized, altho i dont know the problems associated, guess i never realy thought about it much till now, how common is this and after streaching do you continue to have any discomfort?
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Old 12-13-2004, 04:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Know, as an uncircumcised guy, I have to say that I've grown rather attached to my foreskin. You should leave the choice up to your kids. You can always get rid of it later if a problem arises (and good hygene normally prevents those problems), but getting it back requires serious surgery, which doesn't even work all that well.
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Old 12-13-2004, 05:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I had the problem till I got my frenulum cut. Very painless operation.
Sex before the op was painful, now its what its supposed to be. I think owe my surgeon a 6 pack
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The older you get the more serious a circumsision is though. as a baby, it's a wham bam thank you mam, where as if you wait till your an adult, they pump you up on drugs, and you have to wear a bandage on your bad boy for awhile. Lots of pain too from what I am told.
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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on the matter of stretching, what are the most effective ways of widening the foreskin?
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Old 12-14-2004, 02:33 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Wow, I thought I was the only one with this problem, as embarrassing as it is to admit it. The first time I had sex, it was... painful. It didn't occur to me that the foreskin had to retract during sex, and in my early years of masturbation, it had never occurred to me to do so. The kind of phimosis I had was the kind where I could retract the foreskin when I wasn't erect, but not when I was. So maybe it wasn't as bad as other cases.

Anyhow, I didn't see a doctor about it. Too embarrassing. So what I did was this: have sex like a madman, everyday, for hours, over and over again, until it stopped hurting. See, by the time it stopped hurting, the foreskin had already stretched enough for it to be no longer painful. It took a few weeks, I'd say, but it was worth the pain! And my then-girlfriend (now my wife) was ecstatic. ;-)

I don't know if I would suggest this to you, but the point of my story is that the foreskin is just skin, so it WILL stretch.

I'd caution you against circumcising this late in life. You may lose a great deal of sensitivity and pleasure. And it's hard to get that back once you cut it. I've known two people who have been circumcised while adults, and neither were that happy about it. It was very painful for several days post-operative. One of them did it because of religious conversion, and I have no idea why the other did it. Just that it hurt like fire when urinating.
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:01 AM   #23 (permalink)
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littlebighead: Bugger that! I remember how painful it was! (although a good dose of lube helped)

Theres only one thing I don't like about having a foreskin...seems to mean you get a buildup of smegma (and yes I keep cleand down there!).
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:19 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree, drop the shit about being a loser and not having sex yet.

A loser would NOT have posted this thread, but sat around wondering and not talking to anyone about it.

First things first - I still have my skin on my warrior (as you can probly tell by my TFProject name) - It makes so much sense to me to keep it natural. If possible, try stretching it as much as possible, little by little. get some vaseline, or indeed moisturiser with vitamin e which is great for the skin, and get things slippery. I had a slightly tight skin when i was a child and it may leave tiny, tiny stretch marks on your forekin, but only you will see them if it happens.

think of it this way - if you lose the foreskin, the glans will rub on your underwear all day long, gradually de-sensitising the head. it will never make it so you can't feel anything, but if you keep the skin (and it depends how painful your condition is) then you have a protective cover on your man all day long, it will be more sensitive and therefore much more pleasurable for yourself when you have blowjobs or sex, or indeed a visit to rosy palm and her 5 lovely sisters!

As you can see, you're not alone with this condition, its probably just that your glans has grown quicker than the rest of your penis, it may even grow out naturally.

The only thing to be careful of is if you cant pull it all the way back, you will get deposits of semen, skin, dirt etc underneath and it may well cause an infection. that way its better to have a circumcision and endure a week or so of pain, than to lose your penis completely
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Old 12-14-2004, 02:41 PM   #25 (permalink)
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foreskin cant really grow back. the process to put it back is a way to stretch out what's left. however the nerves in what gets stretched back do not compare to the nerves that are severed to circumcision.

as for phimosis- i think i had it when i was young. i couldn't even pull my foreskin back, it was literally attached to my glans. I'd pull it back and it'd hurt like hell. then i reached puberty and started masturbating a lot, and that kinda stretched it out. (i was around 13-14 and perhaps a little vigorus :lol).

sometimes now when i enter a girl it hurts cause it gets stretched out, but its usually cause i'm trying to start to fast and she's not self lubricated yet.

whatever you decide, realize that circumcision is a serious surgery and should only be considered as a last resort. (unless ur worried about the cosmetic appeal of your penis). It will also hurt like a bitch for 2 or more weeks after the surgery. The reason people circumcise kids so early is that it's before nerves get attached. The rabbi i spoke to for my paper said he did one circumcision on a month old, and it was so painful for the kid he wouldn't ever do it on such an old kid again.
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Old 12-14-2004, 05:24 PM   #26 (permalink)
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hmm i have a frenulum breve which im getting fixed in january which is causing my phimosis. dunno much its gonna cost tho.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:00 PM   #27 (permalink)
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When I had it done...it was alot..this private though...and in NZ
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:34 PM   #28 (permalink)
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is it possible to be too sensitive but not have phimosis?
my foreskin is kinda tight, but not so much that i can't get it back if i want to. but when i do, the glans and the foreskin itself (basically the inner-side of it since it's pulled back) are really fukin sensitive to contact.
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