14 runs allowed by the bullpen in three games. The Mets have resumed their losing ways, it's obvious they're not going to the playoffs. Premature? We'll see come September.

I don't understand people freaking out after the first handful of games. They are less than 10 games in, it doesn't mean a thing yet.

I freak out because I saw this same pattern at the end of the season last year. Everybody, from Minaya down to the bat boy wasn't worried. They all thought it'd be a little slump, and before you knew it, they played themselves right into history.

The same things that doomed them last season are cropping up, namely a horrible bullpen that wipes out a good effort by the starting rotation, and a lackluster offense that can't carry them through like you would expect them to.

My Dodgers are getting owned. :(

Fun series to watch! However, there better be some retribution for all the HBP in the series from the Dodgers. Intentional or not, that was too much. I understand them not retaliating in a close game but they are going to need to bean Kent and Martin at least.

Don't worry, the Mets should be just fine.

I'll take the Braves in that division. I'm just not sure about how many good quality starts the mets can get other than Santana.

Speaking of quality starts.. lester sure didn't have one last night.. let the tigers blast away :rolleyes: maybe the minnesota gm isn't so stupid after all heh.

I'm going to keel over dead from a heart attack, and when I do, there will be three people to blame. Aaron Heilman, Billy Wagner, and Scott Schoenweis.

My INDIANS are off to a horrendous start offensively....thank god the pitching is at least winning us a few games. But the offense has to get better. 6 runs in the first 4 innings combined in all games after the opener. Not a good stat. Especially as the opposition has scored 27 runs in that same category.

It's early, I guess I'd rather watch them come alive as the season grows and peak at the end.

But, can the pitching win enough games to keep us in it? Or will the pitching staff start to fall apart because of the pressure? Westbrook and Lee are so far untouchable, Carmona is tough and shows why we signed him for 7 yrs. CC has a history of doing poorly against the A's and Angels so his start is deceiving.... but how much is the contract year and his pushing to get the most out of free agency on his mind?

Lots of questions on the TRIBE not man answers yet.

The REDS though are staying alive, and young. They are going to be a surprise team this year. Still missing something but I think they could end up in the hunt and if they make the right move come trade time in July.... they may take the NL Central.

GOD SAVE THE OHIO TEAMS.

I wouldn't worry just yet. most of the AL teams the people expected to do well are struggling, whether it be the Tigers, Red Sox, Yankees or Indians. Most of the teams have at least one big hitter or pitcher who isn't hitting on all cylinders yet. It's still really early but there has to be some sense of urgency. It's true that championships aren't won in April, but they may be lost in April (Detroit?).

Cleveland will be fine.. Red Sox will be fine..

the Reds will fall off. They have a good farm club, but it will take a few years to get back in contention. There's alot of "surprise" teams right now but it should even out shortly. Most of the surprise teams are merely the benefactors of other teams having poor starts. like llow said.. once the big hitters (i.e. David Ortiz) and pitchers get going on all cylinders.. it's gravy.

All I have to say.. is I love Manny being Manny :D

Well... battle for first place in the AL East last night.... Baltimore came out on top of Toronto....For now....

Although to be fair, Julio Lugo could have been Manny, when Borowski's throwing 82 MPH fastball/changeups right down the middle...

Yeah...you keep dreaming "for now"!

Just getting it all out of the way while I can :D

hehe.... ooops, a 3 run hit by Aaron Hill... Jays win 11 -3 over Baltimore. So now we're tied in the standings. :)

I wish to nominate Dave Letterman to become the Mets' new hitting coach.

Dodgers still limping along. A couple blowout wins and a few hard losses. James Loney is as good as advertised, now we just need Russel Martin to break out of his slump.

If the Dodgers need anything.. it's for Andruw Jones to actually do something other than collect a paycheck.

this may be true..but it's Lugo.. he'd rather bunt that pitch than try and drive it out of the yard.

I know it's early but my TRIBE truly is sucking sewer water.

They are a the end of 4 vs Detroit.... Indians 1 hit a 1st inning homer y David Dellucci and 0/12 against someone Detroit just called up.... Hey Zues Freaking Crisps.... I should know better than to draft Indians on the fantasy teams.... they always suck when I have them and flourish when I get rid of them.....Anyone want V Mart, Hafner, Peralta and Sabathia?

Speaking of Sabathia.... another great game for him.... final stats for the night
......................IP ....H.....R....ER....BB.....K....HR
C.C. Sabathia ... 4.0 ....8 ....9 ....9 .... 5 .... 1.... 2

He's thrown 93 pitches 59 for strikes / the new kid..... 41 thrown and 28 for strikes.

He's an ace alright..... he's going to get Santana money alright..... I hope they trade that fat slob.... I knew he was a bum last year, he cannot win BIG games for the life of him. Go to NY/LA/Chi.... see how well they treat bums that can't pitch pressure games.... fat slob..... (course by the end of the year I'll be bragging how great he pitched down the stretch and how cheap Dolan will be for not signing him.....)

God how I hate baseball..... for the same reason I love it........ the roller coaster of daily emotions and the fun of shit talking when things go great and bitching when shit goes bad.........

They are watching these balls for called third strikes and little league grund balls....... ooo but this is a fearsome team..... yeah right this is a Cleveland team that the 86 Indians could beat and they've all been retired for at least 15 years (except Julio Franco, who could beat this team by himself).

Top of the 5th he walks Polonco then Balks him to 2nd???????? WTF???????

Now he walks Sheffield AND Ordonez with no outs in the top of the 5th???????

Cabrera singles in 2...... Guillen singles bases loaded AGAIN..... No OUTS???????

GET HIM THE FUCK OFF THE MOUND WEDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe he's smoking some of what Joe Blow was.

Too late.....Renteria hits the grand fucking slam......

FUCK YOU SABATHIA GET YOUR ASS OUTTA CLEVELAND YOU FAT FUCKING SLOB WITH YOUR 13.50 ERA AND TAKE JOE BLOW WITH YA.

Now ya put Mastny in ..... when the score is 9-1...... great smart intelligent move by the manager of the fucking year there.

Pan, I love your passion, but I am concerned about your heart. Are you going to be able to make it through the whole season?

:wave: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, it's early, besides if they are out by June I can go play more golf and spend the time at the Lapidary club instead of watching these guys.

Only in fucking Cleveland can a guy go from a Cy Young year to starting 0-3 with a 13.5 ERA in his contract year.

Wow...... never thought I'd say this but thank God for Lee and Westbrook.

Pan

Sabathia will be fine. This is sort of like a hitters slump. My take on Sabathia is simple.. he was overworked last season and is just having a bit of trouble getting the hammer back. We know he sucks in big games but he's still a good pitcher. He'll be fine. That's a difficult thing for me to admit because I still think Beckett should have received the CY and I'd hate to go through another ALCS like last year, but c'mon... Detroit has arguably the best lineup in baseball and C.C.'s other losses came at Oakland..he never wins there. He has some distractions with his contract and all, but Cleveland has a great GM and C.C. is just too good to stay in this slump.

on another note.. fuck the yankees.

But you have to admit, that was one helluva slugfest in the Bronx last night.

I don't know, they may have pushed him too hard last year. Look what happened to Colon after he won the Cy Young. CC is a strong pitcher and he has had his troubles but in all honesty I have never seen the guy pitch this poorly. 5 walks? 3 in a row? Something is wrong with him.

Quasi, yes it was a great offensive game.. too bad Boston was on the wrong end..

Pan.. I get what you're saying.. and I almost thing you could be right.. but look at Wang last night.. 4 walks, 5 consecutive hits.. pitchers have bad nights. I would over look the Oakland starts.. he probably just has a mechanical issue just like Giambi and Ortiz are having mechanical issues at the plate right now.

now if he's still doing this at 100 innings.. then I'll agree with you 100%.

I think CC will be fine but if he's going to go Zito on you, better now before he gets an extension.

Miguel Tejada's 33, not 31!!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes

It's not riveting as the whole Danny Almonte saga, but it is odd that he even did that.

In other news...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

ESPN said Tuesday that a settlement has been reached in the lawsuit filed by former baseball analyst Harold Reynolds over his firing.

Reynolds sued the sports network for at least $5 million in October 2006, three months after he was fired. He claimed he was wrongly fired after a female intern complained about what he called a "brief and innocuous" hug.

Yeah, that is good news about the Reynolds thing, I think. It seemed like they fucked him pretty hard, what with all the little league world series stuff and mlb stuff he did. I like him as a commentator.

This Mets/Nats game is a gem! 14 innings and still going.

The Pad/Rooks game went 22. They had a 14th inning stretch and a 21st inning stretch. Something that will go mostly unnoticed, the Rockies retired 23 straight. They nearly threw a perfect game within a game.

This might be the thing that gets the Rockies over the hump.. granted I don't really care...

I'm actually impressed with the D-backs.. damn they have alot of good young talent, with the exception of Randy Johnson of course :p

on another note.. I think Manny took my advice and did fuck the yankees :D Then again.. Mussina sucks monkey balls.

I hope not. I have really grown to hate the Rockies over the last few months. They have been virually nothing for 15 years and they have some insane streak that took them from average to the WS and since then they have been acting like they've been there from the start.

As for the DBacks, obviously they are playing over their heads right now. Within time they will regress to their true talent level, which is somewhere between the second half 2007 and 2008. There are still plenty of variables.

I was feeing hardcore about staying up through all 14 innings, but that Padres/Rockies game had me beat.

I'm impressed by that Figueora kid.

Check this out, Rays' rookie Evan Longoria just got a 9 year deal!!! He has 20 MLB ABs.

The deal is guaranteed through his arbitration years. The first potential FA year is a team option and the next two are mutual options. All in all it is worth up to over $44M with $17.5M guaranteed.

The Rays should be securing their talent. I know 20 AB's is a little bit of a stretch but they have good young talent and their farm system is the best in the majors

it is true that the Rays are a low payroll team and need to lock up young talent for as long as possible, however it is a bit early to tell if he is Carl Crawford or Rocco Baldelli. Those same low payroll teams can't afford mistakes like the $100 million+ teams...
And, hey, his name IS disturbingly close to a hot actresses'...

I totally agree it's too early, but I'm sure there's an exit clause somewhere in that contract.. they'll still lose a bit of money but if he turns out like they think he will..they scored a huge deal.

It's a shame what happened to Baldelli. I hope he can make it back.

Look at it this way, it's only an average of $3M/yr spread out over 6 years that is guaranteed. Obviously it is heavily back loaded but that's all it amounts to.

Look at it this way: Ryan Howard was a super 2 in the last offseason, meaning he will have seasons where he is arbitration eligible. He won his arbitration hearing for $10M. They will pay him more each year so he could realistically make close to $60M in his first 6 years of service time. I'd say that Longoria stands to lose the most if he is as good as promised.

However, Longoria could end up with shit if he ends up sucking. He's set for life no matter what now. Good for him.

Lots of respect to Maddox tonight. He gave up 7 in the first two innings but stuck it through 7 to give his team some much needed rest.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280418129

After the Indians last 2 games.... I am seriously worried that something is wrong with CC. Coming back and beating Detroit 11-1 Thursday..... and listening to the interviews.... I just am not sure

I've noticed....every team in the NL seems to have a Met killer. Even the Mets have one...his name is Aaron Heilman.

You New York fans. Nothing pleases you. You're 10-8, not 8-10. You have a great RS/RA differential that shows you can score and prevent runs. Be patient, you have a great team.

Gagne just blew his 4th save op of the year.

and the Brewers just blew a ton of money on him

It's not like any reasonable GM could have seen that it was nearly inevitable...

Latest news out of Chicago - Ronny Cedano gets a big hit in the 8th last night against the Mets, predicts a World Series this morning and just hit a grand slam in the bottom of the eighth yesterday.

It's waaaaaay too early to start talking about playoffs, especially with this franchise, but damn...

And kutulu, I hate your avatar. Which you probably already knew.

Do you see why I'm pulling my hair out?!?!?!? Granted, Figs didn't have a great outing, but every time Schoenweis, Sosa, or Heilman get on the mound, one of two things happen: The bases get loaded up, or somebody slaps one into the stands, and when the stars align like they did today, both happen. I can tolerate the sluggish offense because other players are stepping up, but when you take the game completely out of the batters' hands...:angry:

As a Red Sox fan, I have to ask, WTF did they see in that guy that would lead them to believe that they should make him their closer AND pay him like one? As far as anyone can see he is washed up like lawn chairs after a tsunami.

The 152 saves over three years with sub-2.7 ERAs, the 2.16 ERA and 16 saves in a half-season in Texas last year and the one year deal he was willing to accept to attempt to salvage his career?

Couldn't have been any of that.

Or it could have been that he stopped doing the steroids. He was good. WAS. that was tons of injuries and probably several cycles of PEDs ago. IMO It was dumb for Milwaukee to sign him to that kind of contract. They would have been far better server to give him an incentive-based contract. It's not like there was a bidding war for the guy...

ok so Gange had a decent track record in Texas.. so fucking what. Look at what he did in a big market. He sucked so much donkey ass he turned into one. Then the Brewers (who have a closer mind you) give Gange an insane amount of money to be a closer in a division that will be tightly contested (probably). Not very smart. He wasn't attempting to salvage his career, he was attempting to find a stupid GM that would pay him a fat check and pretend he still had the stats. He found one that's for sure.

and I guess Pan can chill out now. C.C had a decent line last night. Dropped his ERA 3 points.

oh.. yeah one more thing. Am I the only one sick of hearing all this goddamn Joba shit?? Baby Stein wants to call people an idiot for keeping a guy in the pen who has a 100mph fastball.. umm.. well.. let's see.. the kid doesn't really have the diversity of pitches to make it as a starter.. he has no arm strength built up.. and let's see him throw that 100mph heater after 4 innings. He should stay as a setup guy and replace Rivera when the time is right.

oh fuck me.. and I really saying this?? nevermind.. make the kid a starter so Manny can bust his ass up.

Gagne is done, I think the Brew Crew made a move to just appease the critics and he was the only one who would sign there. Once they start winning, I see them spending and getting some gus that will truly help. They have a great team there.

CC it'll take more than just one game against a team that can't hit and is in a downslide. Now if he puts together 2 -3 more starts that strong I'll breathe easier.

Joba???? The bugs are too thick Joba?????

The kind of performance CC had last night should get him over the hump. I'm almost sure of it.

and yes that's the same Joba. I'm hoping the black cat that ran into the skanks dugout last night serves the same purpose it has served the cubs all these years.

Just remember that Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy couldn't handle a Baltimore offense with Kevin Millar batting cleanup and a shortstop that hits like it's 1968 (not Carl Yaztremski, either; more like Hal Lanier).

Yeah, I'm worried about the Yankees :p

I don't know why you are all focused on Gagne as such a big bust when the Dodgers have got to be shitting their collective pants about Andruw Jones, his .156 average, 1 HR and the $15M he's due this year. I know it's almost impossible to compare hitters and pitchers in quantifiable terms, but I have to insist that Jones is having a much slower start than CC, pan, especially after last night.

Jazz.. you must have missed my earlier post where I dogged Andruw. That was a pretty obvious thing, but I think it's a little easier to get a swing back than a throwing arm. ;)

I'm still pissed off that Gagne sucked it up in Boston so much last year.. just like I'll talk shit about Renteria ..

Plus, if you want to look at hitters and talk about Andruw.. how about Ryan Howard?? wins arbitration and sucks it up.

gucci, you know me well enough to know that if it didn't happen on this page, it might as well not exist for me. Even if I caught it, it didn't happen today, and it's filed next to what I had for lunch on Monday. But I did catch your "black cat" comment.

I thought about using Ryan Howard as my example but didn't because he's hitting .190 and "only" making $10M. His OBP and SLG are also a lot better than Jones, who's never seen a high fastball he didn't like. And he does have 4 HR's, which is marginally ok. On the plus side, he's being patient at the plate and has 15 walks this year.

Edit: and did you have a good time at the game last night?

ya know .. all I can say about the dumbass who lost the ball is I'm glad it didn't happen at skankee stadium.. and I'm glad the Boston fans boo'ed him and .. it should have been him that fell over the edge..

The Reds finally fired their GM and replaced him with Walt Jocketty (formerly of St Louis). One less GM out there to screw over.

Yeah, this highlights the difference between the luxury box douchbags and the rest of the fans. I'm glad they booed him

By the way, I met Sean Casey out at a bar on Monday and the guy is unbelievably classy and gracious. I knew his reputation, and he lived up to it. I was pleased to shake his hand. Some of these other guys, I couldn't care less about.

that's pretty awesome llow. Good to hear he lived up to the rep he has.

Heilman gives up grand slam. Beautiful. :shakehead:

and Boston's bullpen has identity problems .. again.

uugh.

I'm giving them a pass this time, as the spot starter two games ago only went 4 and taxed the pen, plus some of them still have the bubonic plague or whatever was going around there. Delcarmen said later that he was dizzy and felt crappy, but hoped it would go away (oh, now you tell us). Whatever. 3 games in Fenway South should cure what ails them.

Man it's great rooting for a team with nothing to lose :D

It's true. Everything in life is about expectations.

I take back all the bad things I've said about Billy Wagner.

You don't win the division in April but a hot start sure makes it easier. The DBacks wrapped up a 22-game stretch against the NL West (what happened to the NL West so far?) going 17-5. They own a 6 game lead over the Dodgers and haven't lost a series since the first one of the year. Webb is 6-0 and the team is the tops in the NL both for runs scored and runs allowed. What a start.

Well the Dodgers are .. well they're being the Dodgers.. tons of expectations but no delivery.

Like I said before, the Dbacks are loaded with young talent, and while they may be playing over their heads.. they have the talent to sustain a good playoff run.

Boston really needs to start putting a streak together. The AL East has been a pretty boring division (IMO) so far this year. Lots of underachieving that is pissing me off. I've been saying for a long time to look for the Rays to show something, and this year they are doing it so far, but they really shouldn't be competing with the likes of Boston just yet. I guess that's what cold offense gets you though.

and Pan.. are you convinced C.C. is ok yet?? :D

They are one sick team this year. My old adopted hometown really has a team that they can be truly proud over.

NO..... as soon as I say yes, he'll fall apart. I complain and he wins.... so I'll keep bitching....:grumpy:

That was one TOUGH loss for CC last night. It sucks when that sort of thing happens.

I'd say he pitched pretty damn well.... but.... but..... well he did give up that one home run and it cost us the game.... he's a bum.

:thumbsup: did I do good still pushing the CC hate so I don't jinx him?

I'd say it's pretty hard to jinx him given his record :p

Shoot, two Sox pitchers just lost after pitching just about as well. It's the way things go sometimes. I always hate to see it though, you have the feeling that there are only a certain number of bullets in their guns in any given year.

I'm going to the Sox game tomorrow (Tues). I'm hoping Lester has one of his good games. Hoping more that the rain stops before game time.

I watched the Bucholtz game. That was a shame how that ended. He pitched a great game. I missed the Beckett game.

Wow dude, you saw a great one, I hope you had a good time (and took pictures).

The first half of the game, I was sitting behind a pole. Couldn't see the pitcher. Couldn't complain though, the tickets were free.
We did have a good time. I got a few pics before the battery died.
Had a pair of fidgety couples in front of us. I don't think they sat still for an entire inning till the 7th. Constant beer runs. Idiots.

DBacks lost tonight but top prospect Scherzer made his debut in relief. 4.1 perfect innings, 7K's. Most consecutive retired in relief during a debut performance since at least 1900. He was dealing.

OHIO BASEBALL SUCKS... THE REDS SUCK.... THE INDIANS SUCK.... THE WHLE TEAMS SHOULD BE DEMOTED TO AA.

FUCK OHIO BASEBALL!!!!!!!!

(hopefully this works and these teams start playing up to their true potentials)

ROFL, how long before you are sacrificing chickens and calling on Jobu from Major league?

Once battling for First, now the Jays are in last place. Such is the lot of a Toronto sports fan.

the jays should climb back up to second or third.. if they stay healthy

Order has been restored to the universe.
:)

Don't drink the shot glass full of rum I have before Jobu!!!!!!!

Cuban shows up, and the big bats explode for 19. An omen?

We need the win this afternoon to win the series and for morale. Big Z is on the mound today against Sheets (I think - not sure about the Brew Crew), and that alone should be entertaining.

How is it that one my assistants has been to 3 games, is going again this afternoon, all work-related, and I haven't managed to go once?

Is very bad idea to steal Jobu's rum.

Is VERY BAD idea.

Fantasy players: If you have the room, pick up Max Scherzer (AZ). He makes his first start on Monday. In his debut (relief appearance) he retired all 13 batters he faced and K'd 7. Some debate that he has the secondary stuff to start but he should at least get by until the scouting catches up. Regardless, he'll strike out batters in bunches and that has value on it's own.

My Dodgers are putting together and impressive streak. Right now they're the hottest team in the league.

It finally happened.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nat...,1839323.story

Yeah, saw this earlier. it is sad, but I think that the skankee/sox thing is being a bit overplayed, as the woman had already been in a fistfight with a girl accompanying the guy who was hit. I think the Hatfield McCoy thing sells papers. As a Red Sox fan it would be easy to say "just another typical drunk Yankee fan" but that would be a ridiculous exaggeration and a disservice to the young man who died.
Oh yeah, speaking of rivalries, congrats on your fella's award.:no: :no:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...2&sportCat=mlb

This one's better ;)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...rivalry/080430

goddamn drunk yankee fans

ok now that that is out of the way ;)

The rivalry is a bit overplayed, although the fans take it more serious than the players do. Some people hear all this hype about the rivalry and just go way too far with it.

That's pretty awesome! "I'm Esteban Yan." Listing the rainout was classic.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...s=bos&psp=news

Girlfriend: Deadly Fight Not About Sox-Yankees
Scuffle Involved Two Women, Friend Say
POSTED: 8:26 am EDT May 7, 2008
UPDATED: 9:07 am EDT May 7, 2008
Girlfriend: Deadly Fight Not About Sox-Yankees
BOSTON -- The longtime girlfriend of a Red Sox fan who was hit and killed by a car outside a Nashua, N.H. bar over the weekend said the fight that preceded his death had nothing to do with the notorious Sox-Yankees rivalry, which was widely reported.
Donna Dionne, 29, told the Boston Herald that Matthew Beaudoin, 29, had been trying to defend a female friend who had been punched by Ivonne Hernandez, 43, outside Slade’s Food & Spirits early last Friday.
Hernandez was charged with second-degree murder, aggravated drunken driving and reckless conduct and was ordered held without bail after allegedly mowing down Beaudoin and others outside the bar following the scuffle.
Beaudoin died of massive head trauma later that day.
Dionne said Beaudoin had tried to break up the fight between the two women, and when Hernandez got in her Dodge Intrepid, several people outside the bar noticed the Yankees bumper sticker on it and began chanting, "Yankees suck."
Dionne told the paper the group was just mocking Hernandez but the original scuffle was not about the team rivalry.
She said she had dated Beaudoin for 12 years and the couple had talked about getting married.

As we suspected. Fucking sensational journalism.

I'm disappointed that the Figueroa was designated for assignment. I'm also disappointed that he let the Nats' dugout get to him like that. I'm even more disappointed that the Mets are crying about what the Nats did considering the shit they pulled last season.

My advice: Sack up and play ball. Let your gameplay shut them up, and quit yer bitchin'

NY teams are always the biggest crybabies.

in other news, I'd say the Longoria trade is working out nicely for the Rays.

and .. Boston is sucking it up.. :slurp:

Trade? You mean extension right? He's not exactly doing great but he has a league average OPS+ (104). Regardless, they may have called him up about a week or so too early. There is a cutoff sometime around the third or forth week of the season where you can call someone up and even if they stay the rest of the year they won't get a full year of service time. You'd think the Rays took care of that but if not, that is a big mistake on their part.

So...who was that team in the "B" hats that came to Baltimore this week?

They looked like the Red Sox, but they sure didn't play like them.

(Though I'll give Manny credit; that was a HELL of a catch he made today.)

How about them Indians lately?

Last 5: 5 and 0. Combined team era: 0.19

43~ Scoreless consecutive innings by the starters currently.

Indians best record ever is 47 scoreless innings by starters, all it takes is one more game to break Indians history.

I'm more than aware that streak will not last though.

Baseball is quite fun this year so far, so many predictions are way off. I love it!

God forsaken Indians.... if they were any fuckin good they'd be hitting and have an ERA of 0.00 in their last 5 games.

Bunch of overhyped, overpaid, underachieving AA bush leaguers..... fuck them and CC is the biggest loser of them all, can't pitch his way out of a paper bag.

(These views are not necessarily those of the writer's.... but it has been noted that since the writer originally posted his hated for the team.... it has gone 9-4, beating the Yankees 2/3 and 5 shutouts.... coincidence? don't believe in them)