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Old 04-19-2004, 08:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Corey Dillon to the Pats.

Sick, absolutley sick. That offensive line, with an explosive back like Dillon, back to back Superbowls, could be scary.

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Old 04-20-2004, 03:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Could be scary, or not. I remember people insisting Tampa Bay was a lock to repeat last year, but look what happened to them. You never know until they play the games.
I don't think he can hurt them though. Looks like a great move.
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Old 04-20-2004, 05:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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depends on his attitude & how much he has left in tank...
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Old 04-20-2004, 05:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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He is a great back, but he has some injury concerns and we will see how his attitude gels with Belicheck. I don't think they will repeat because it is so much harder when every team you play is playing their hardest to knock off the defending champs. Look back at the list, every team for the last few years has been a surprise and snuck up on the league. The Pats might be the only exception because of their last win over the Rams, but they missed the playoffs in between, so many wrote it off as a fluke. This will tremendously help the Pats because they haven't had a running game since Curtis Martin left, but it doesn't make them a lock for the title.
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Old 04-20-2004, 03:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Finally Dillon is gone..... I wanted him long gone before this year.... but now that Cinnci.... has a decent offense (not great not bad just average) I'm glad hes going to be long gone...... Cinncitnati is now Kitnas city
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Old 04-20-2004, 03:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Finally Dillon is gone..... I wanted him long gone before this year.... but now that Cinnci.... has a decent offense (not great not bad just average) I'm glad hes going to be long gone...... Cinncitnati is now Kitnas city
Don't you mean PALMER'S city
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Old 04-20-2004, 05:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like Antwan Smith too. I know hes not the greatest running back, but he got the job done. The Pats dont need Dillon.
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Old 04-20-2004, 06:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I dont know about this move... it gives me an uneasy feeling.. a feelin of impending doom for the Patriots
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Old 04-20-2004, 06:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I like Antwan Smith too. I know hes not the greatest running back, but he got the job done.
Didn't they cut him ?
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Old 04-20-2004, 07:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yep.

He isn't that good. Trust me. Corey Dillion is a top 10 RB in the league when he isn't on the Bengals, and even somethimes when he was. This will only help the Patriots get to the AFC Championship, where they will lose in heartbreaking fashion to the Ravens.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with dj that he won't take them back to the Super Bowl, but that's not his fault, it's just that the AFC is too good. This year this AFC East in particular will beat up on the Pats more than they could last year and they won't make it through the playoffs, because there they'll face the Broncos, Titans, or Colts. Dillon has been a great player and I love him, but I don't think he's going to fit in with Brady's short, high percentage passing game.
As for them losing to the birds in the AFC Championship...keep dreaming dj.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The ultimate irony will occur when the suddenly ferocious Bengals have a better record than the Patsies.

Good riddance...
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Too much baggage!
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Old 04-21-2004, 01:26 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Too much baggage!
On the other hand, the Pats are very good about bringing loose cannons under control.
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Old 04-21-2004, 01:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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On the other hand, the Pats are very good about bringing loose cannons under control.
Yeah, just ask Ty Law!
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Old 04-21-2004, 09:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah, just ask Ty Law!
Or Terry Glenn.
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Old 04-22-2004, 01:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Good riddance.
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Old 04-22-2004, 01:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't think they will repeat because it is so much harder when every team you play is playing their hardest to knock off the defending champs.
I think the Dillon trade is a great move for the Pats, but I also agree with the above statement.

I don't agree that he won't fit in with the short passing game as wrongfullyaccuzd suggested though. I'm pretty sure the Pats ran that offense because they didn't have the running game. The were terrible at running out the clock because, while they could trust Smith not to put the ball on the carpet, they couldn't trust him to grind out first downs. I'd like to think that if Weis and Belicheck will know how to use a weapon like Dillon. we will see though.

I'm curious about the whole team chemistry this year. People like Bruschi and Harrison are really going to have to step up in the locker room. If Ty Law is on the team next year he won't be helpful, but the man wants his money, and he will be cut next year, so it's in his best interest not to tank it on the field. That said who knows what he will be like when not on the field. Dillon is saying all the right things now, lets hope they are true.

Should be an interesting season for the pats. the AFC east should be pretty good and everyone they face will be gunning for them. I hope it's not like the 02-03 season where they missed the playoffs totally, but it wouldn't shock me.

<< on the subject of distractions... the year terry glenn did his thing the pats won the superbowl. Last year even though the team really was an emotional mess after the lawyer milloy trade they pulled themselves together after a horrible loss to the bills and had an amazing season. This year I hope they can repeat that sort of thing with a grumpy Ty Law. >>
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Old 04-22-2004, 05:42 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm not a Pat fans, but how many times did you doubt what they could do last year? Every week, "The Pats are going down this week". That led to what, 17 straight?

Nuff said.
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Old 04-22-2004, 10:10 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Don't you mean PALMER'S city
I'm surprised they haven't traded Palmer yet I think that Kitna has many more years in him. Hopefully all the Johnsons will stay there too (Chad J., Rudi J., theres one more too).
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Old 09-23-2004, 06:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Finally Dillon is gone..... I wanted him long gone before this year.... but now that Cinnci.... has a decent offense (not great not bad just average) I'm glad hes going to be long gone...... Cinncitnati is now Kitnas city
Just wanted to give a quick "thanks" to you guys for sending us Dillon! Go Pats!
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Old 09-23-2004, 01:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yeah, I would say that Dillon was a good trade-158 yds on the ground...for one person...on the Pats?? When was the last time that happened...combined yardage included? Had to be when Curtis Martin was on the Pats...a long time ago. Based on early season results the Pats seem to have an easy schedule and the AFC East isn't really shaping up to be too tough this year. The Jets haven't really played a tough team yet, just the Bungles and SD, not really hard to win those games. The Dolphins and Bills....you're kidding me, right? The Pats should win the division, but that's the furthest prediction I'll make. I'll wait to see what other teams will make up the playoff grid. The only team that makes me nervous in the playoffs is the Ravens, but even then as long as the Pats control the ground game, they should win.
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Old 09-24-2004, 02:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yep.

He isn't that good. Trust me. Corey Dillion is a top 10 RB in the league when he isn't on the Bengals, and even somethimes when he was. This will only help the Patriots get to the AFC Championship, where they will lose in heartbreaking fashion to the Ravens.
Not to be offensive, but I am tired of that "everybody sucked while they played with the Bengals from 1990-2004" bullshit. Excuse me, but didn't Corey (even though he is a big, whining piece of dog shit, suffice to say I was in the crowd booing him while NE played the Bengals in preseason) rush for at least a thousand yards his first 5 seasons, all of which he played for the Bengals? Isn't he still 2nd on most yards gained rushing in a game, and didn't he hold #1 on that list for a while? Does he not have the most yards gained rushing in a game by a rookie (which, by the way, took place on the Bengals' last night game until last week)? Did Boomer Esiason not take over for Jeff Blake during the mid- 1996 season and lead the team to win 5 of their last 7 games? I think people don't know the team well enough. There were 3 main problems with the Bengals in those years. #1 was a man named Bruce Coslet, head coach until Dick LeBeau took over in 2002. He was responsible for offensive playcalling, almost exlusively relying on rushing attempts and 0-2 yard passes that were almost always dropped. He never changed in all of his years there, and luckily, now, we have the great Marvin Lewis. 2nd is the secondary. They didn't cover passes at all. They're getting better. 3rd was special teams, which is still a problem. Hardly ever was the roster a problem.
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