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Old 12-13-2004, 04:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ha Ha King George loses but NY still wins.......

Looks as though the Mets took Pedro. They have a damn good starting rotation now. Pedro's going to be way overpaid, but damn... the Mets are going to put Atlanta in some hard times. So long Philly and Jim "I wanna play for a contender and Cleve. just isn't" Thome...... ahhhhh

Wonder if King George is pissed yet and who the next hasbeen/never was he'll sign to try to keep up with Wilpon and Doubleday's Mets.

na na na na hey hey hey good bye Yankees

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Pedro Martinez picks Mets over Red Sox
12/13/2004, 7:03 p.m. ET
By RONALD BLUM
The Associated Press

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) Pedro Martinez closed in on a four-year deal with the New York Mets, and the Boston Red Sox resigned themselves Monday to losing the three-time Cy Young Award winner.


"He was a great member of the Red Sox team for seven years, and a certain Hall of Famer," Red Sox president Larry Lucchino told The Associated Press in an e-mail. "He will be missed, and we are disappointed to have lost him to the Mets and the National League."

Martinez's agent, Fernando Cuza, told the Mets he would attempt to work out a deal with them after New York guaranteed a fourth year, a person involved in the talks said on condition of anonymity.

Mets general manager Omar Minaya expressed confidence about the negotiations with Martinez, but wouldn't detail the discussions.

"The good news is that we're still in dialogue," Minaya said. "Every day that goes by and we are having dialogue is a good day."

Minaya then left baseball's winter meetings and returned to New York, and the sides will work by telephone to finalize the contract language.

Martinez helped pitch Boston to its first World Series title since 1918, but Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein said he refused to increase the team's offer in the past two days.

Martinez, 33, also must pass a physical before the Mets complete the deal.

New York initially offered a $37.5 million, three-year contract with a $12.5 million team option for 2008.

Boston's final proposal was a $30.5 million, three-year deal that contained a club option for 2008, a baseball official said, also on condition of anonymity. The Mets' offer was thought to be for $56 million over four years, the official said.

"We put our best foot forward and made an offer that makes sense to the club," Epstein said. "We think it's a fair and generous offer."

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AP Sports Writers Jimmy Golen and Mike Fitzpatrick contributed to this report


link: http://www.cleveland.com/sportsflash...ylist=baseball
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Old 12-13-2004, 05:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So, is it actually official?
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Old 12-14-2004, 01:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Steady on, it's only Pedro... who can't throw more than 100 pitches... who is 33+... who is getting paid 10m a YEAR.

If anything King George just dodged a bullet.
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Actually at 34 a 4 year contract is fine.
He is a good pick up ( i hope)
OIf the mets secure a good middle rotation they will do awesome with Pedro.

SO what if he only gives you 6 good innings each game, that is fine. Have him pitch 6 scoreless innings and bring in a confident long relief guy who will always pitch when pedro does.

Boston like the chumps they are mismanaged Pedro.
You know why they won last year becasue their management through everything they had into the series with total disregard for the future. It shows how desperate they were. they knew the only way to win the world series was to jeopardize the health of their players.
and what do they have this year? a team that will falll apart with no hope to win again the future.

Of course it is not guaranteed the Mets will get Pedro
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I apologize for horrid typing above; it is early
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I fail to understand why someone would desire to go to the Mets; especially if the player (as is the case here) is on a good team, like the Red Sox.

It just boggles my mind. The Mets, haha.
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Old 12-14-2004, 09:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The Mets will not make the playoffs next year. I'm saying right now. I don't see how a gimpy Pedro, a gimpy Floyd, a gimpy Reyes, a gimpy Piazza and a whole bunch o' crap will help them make the playoffs. Benson is WAY overrated and...well, I dunno why they made those trades at the deadline last year. Boy would Kazmir look good in the rotation next year, huh?

I see zero reason why the Mets will be better than the Phillies, Braves, or Marlins.
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Old 12-14-2004, 09:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Congratulations, pan. As a Phillies phan, I'm disappointed to see Pedro in the NL East. However, that ticking sound you hear is the time bomb in Pedro's shoulder just waiting to go off.

If you think the Mets, as presently constituted, are a threat to Atlanta (and to a much lesser extent) Philadelphia, you're just kidding yourself.
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Old 12-14-2004, 09:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The Mets will not make the playoffs next year. I'm saying right now. I don't see how a gimpy Pedro, a gimpy Floyd, a gimpy Reyes, a gimpy Piazza and a whole bunch o' crap will help them make the playoffs. Benson is WAY overrated and...well, I dunno why they made those trades at the deadline last year. Boy would Kazmir look good in the rotation next year, huh?

I see zero reason why the Mets will be better than the Phillies, Braves, or Marlins.
I agree with everything you said.

I don't see the Mets doing well next year, despite their signings, and while the Phillies "big chance" appeared to be last year, and the Marlins and Braves lost a few guys, I'm thinking the Braves will win the division again, without fail.

It seems the Braves can field a minor league quality team and still win the NL East each year, and this year doesn't look to be any different. I'm a Phillies fan, and I think they will do better than the Mets, but not better than the Braves.. We'll see though. I'm already getting excited about baseball, but it's a little too soon at this point.
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm with you, Jim. I've given up predicting that anyone other than Atlanta will win the NL East. Shuerholtz, Cox and Mazzone are just that darn good. IMO, though, Mazzone is their true star. It doesn't seem to matter what pitchers they sign, they all seem to have more success in Atlanta than anywhere else. Heck, they got a great season out of John Burkett. Recently, look at the success of Chris Hammond and Jaret Wright -- two guys all but given up for dead by everybody else.

My real fear as a Phils phan is that Millwood will find his way back to Atlanta on the cheap and see his ERA fall by a run and a half.
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Wonder if King George is pissed yet and who the next hasbeen/never was he'll sign to try to keep up with Wilpon and Doubleday's Mets.

na na na na hey hey hey good bye Yankees
This is the funniest thing I've read today. I don't know what it might look like from Ohio, but trust me, and anyone from the Tri-state area should agree here, the Yankees have NEVER EVER been the ones trying to "keep up" with the Mets. The Yanks just finished stealing Stanton back from the Mets for a piece of crap, Felix Heredia. Exactly how a team with has won their division for 9 of the last 12 years (and placed 2nd the other 3) has to "keep up" with a team that has won their division exactly ZERO TIMES in that same 12 year stretch and that has been owned by Atlanta since the first Gulf War is beyond me. I'm not even going to mention the 2000 World Series. Oops, too late, I did.

You also assume the Yankees wanted Pedro. They didn't. They got the starter they were after, Pavano. The Yankees making the offer to Pedro was to drive up his price to the point where the Sox had to spend money they would need to sign a real FA, like Varitek, or keep him off the team. Again, mission accomplished.

Look for a crappy year from Pedro. Who was the last free agent who came to the Mets and had a great first season? Tom Glavine? Oh wait, maybe it was Mo Vaughn? No, How about Jeromy Burnitz? Roberto Alomar, Pedro Astacio... stop me when I get to one...

Another 4th place finish for the New York Mess.

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Old 12-14-2004, 10:17 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'll second guy44, Jimellow and thrsn0730. I'm a Braves fan, and the Mets signing Pedro doesn't have me shaking in my kitten-heals.

Every time the Mets look good on paper they manage to fuck it all up. They'll do it again this year.

It's all about the coaches and upper management with the Braves. Hell, I was worried about last season and they still managed to win the East. Mazzone is one of the best pitching coaches ever.
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think this proves that if Minaya had the Mets' payroll in Montreal, the Expos would still be in D.C. due to bankruptcy.
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Old 12-14-2004, 05:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It was reported that the Mets actually asked a Yankees high official if they should "offer pedro a fourth year". That official replied "You should." and voila. Actually King George didn't lose. This was a HUGE victory.

1)Pedro isn't on the Red Sux.
2)the METS signed pedro, who has been steadily falling downhil for the past few years, for an insane contract.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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as long as pedro is healthy i think he is worth the money, but he's just to injury prone to get that type of contract at this age. i think i read that his brother suffered a shoulder injury at the same age and innings that pedro will hit this year. he has a bum shoulder, can't pitch really more that 7 innings and he can't be your stud (meaning if you need him on 3 days rest..etc). the mets are retarded, espn said the 2004 mo vaughn and i think they hit it right on the head.
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