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Old 02-04-2005, 04:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Duke-UNC

Well boys, next Wed will be here before we know it - I honestly like Duke's chances playing at home and I think one of the main keys to this game is that the Dookies stay way the hell out of foul trouble even with the Tarhole's ability to run the fast break often (and effective). If Duke can slow it down somewhat, hold the Heels to less than/around 40%, I'd say Duke wins easily. I'm obviously biased, but I'm looking forward to it...I think they match up very well with 'em..

BTW, did anyone see that garbage throat slash from sorry-ass McCants last night?

Anyway, GO DUKE!
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Both teams suck, but Duke sucks more.

Here's rooting for a 2-0 Tar Heel win with the top seven on both sides fouling out in the first ten minutes.
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In the words of my sister (also from Mass, but at UNC), Go Tahheels!
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I guess rooting for a tie is unrealistic. :i


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Old 02-04-2005, 08:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The way the Tar Heels have been annihilating teams lately, and Duke's recent home loss to a bipolar Maryland team, this has all the makings for a UNC blowout. This is Duke/UNC though, (NC pride, and proud tradition) they always have great games.
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Old 02-06-2005, 07:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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All signs point to a UNC victory but it's tough to pick against Duke in Cameron. Let me get off the fence though, Tarheels by 3.
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It's going to be a tough game.. it always is. It doesn't matter who is better on paper. This is the best rivalry in the nation. I'm betting on Duke by 12
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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UNC runs like crazy and they win by at least 10 and but my boy JJ in a losing effort puts up 27
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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JJ Reddick will have 30 points and Duke will loose by 4.
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Old 02-08-2005, 05:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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GO UNC, kick the crap out of those Dukies!
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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the Duke UNC game is always an interesting one, i'd like to see UNC come out on top cause Duke winning gets old...i could care less either way for the most part though...GO ZONA
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-2005, 06:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Duke is going down. Thats all there is to it.

When we win, this campus is gonna go nuts.
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Old 02-09-2005, 08:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Duke wins 71-70.

Great game, but Carolina got lucky on the no-call with less then a minute left, then another no-call with what Reddick clearly had position in transition which I thought should have been a charging call. None the less, always an epic battle.
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Old 02-09-2005, 08:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Duke wins 71-70.

Great game, but Carolina got lucky on the no-call with less then a minute left, then another no-call with what Reddick clearly had position in transition which I thought should have been a charging call. None the less, always an epic battle.
Yeah, that had shades of Duke's collapse to UCONN in the Final Four last year, but Felton, who played a great game, made a horrible decision.

For some strange reason, ESPN didn't air the game in my region of MD, but it was on a local channel that shows ACC games. If a replay of that "no-call" with Reddick was shown on ESPN, I didn't get to see it. In live action, I thought it was a good no call. I fucking hate how refs call clearly bad charging calls. It plagues NCAA Mens BBall, and it is evident in the NBA too. Reddick was playing Felton, and then once the pass was made, it looked like Reddick slid over and didn't establish position before McCants went airborne. Regardless, Duke played very well. Ewing hit too clutch threes, and McCants couldn't connect on anything.
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Old 02-09-2005, 09:17 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Duke is lucky. They ended up a Raymond Felton brain-fart away from going 0-2 between tonight and this Saturday. Doubt that would look good for the polls.
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Old 02-09-2005, 09:49 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Duke is lucky. They ended up a Raymond Felton brain-fart away from going 0-2 between tonight and this Saturday. Doubt that would look good for the polls.

hahah, more like 8 felton brain-farts - his 13 points didn't come close to canceling out those 8 turnovers by a duke D that came ready to play like always. you can't give them their due credit dj can you?

i was more than impressed with the way they dominated, held the heels out of their run and gun, didn't commit ticky tack fouls, and hit their freebies. what a solid fucking performance.

go to hell carolina go to hell - can't wait for this saturday night...
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Carolina really should have won. The thing is the turnovers killed them. I'm so happy that Duke won..now if we can just avenge our loss to a shitty Maryland team we'll be all good.
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:32 AM   #21 (permalink)
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For some strange reason, ESPN didn't air the game in my region of MD, but it was on a local channel that shows ACC games.
it wasn't on ESPN for me either... and i'm sure it must have been on a local channel, but i couldn't find it. i was p*ssed.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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hahah, more like 8 felton brain-farts - his 13 points didn't come close to canceling out those 8 turnovers by a duke D that came ready to play like always. you can't give them their due credit dj can you?

i was more than impressed with the way they dominated, held the heels out of their run and gun, didn't commit ticky tack fouls, and hit their freebies. what a solid fucking performance.

go to hell carolina go to hell - can't wait for this saturday night...
I only really saw that last fifteen seconds, so that's what I was going off of

And, there is no way I would EVER give Duke any due credit
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Old 02-12-2005, 09:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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alright djtestudo,

tonight's the night - time for some payback...

"sweat gary sweat!!! sweat gary sweat!!!"
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:13 AM   #24 (permalink)
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alright djtestudo,

tonight's the night - time for some payback...

"sweat gary sweat!!! sweat gary sweat!!!"
Fuck you JJ *clap**clap**clapclapclap*
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:38 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The only real problem with the High-heels vs. the Dookies is that they both can't lose.

*ducks & runs for cover*
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Old 03-06-2005, 12:30 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Part 2 in 30 minutes...

Can't believe they have Duke as a 7 point dog, think they have an excellent chance at yet another sweep as long as they stay out of foul trouble again.

Ahhhhh, gotta love college bball.

GO DUKE!
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Yeah you gotta love college basketball, Duke blew it, which is great because I wasn't rooting for them. Go Tarheels, they really turned up the heat at the end of the game.
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:37 AM   #28 (permalink)
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it was another great game. These two never seem to disappoint. I thought Duke was going to pull it out but that lasta shot was luck. Can't believe JJ didn't show up in the second half..
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:34 AM   #29 (permalink)
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As a UNC student... I have never seen anything as ridiculous as the celebrating last night. Franklin street, the main drag in town, was packed with students and no fewer than three huge bonfires were burning in the middle of the street. You couldnt even move there were so many people screaming and cheering. The police couldnt do anything about it and just stood by and watched. Many classes were cancelled today as professors realized that everyone was going to be too hungover to show up anyways. Unbelievable.
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:40 AM   #30 (permalink)
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it would've been the same in Durham if Duke would have won... it's always the same story every year
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Old 03-08-2005, 04:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Both teams suck, but Duke sucks more.

Here's rooting for a 2-0 Tar Heel win with the top seven on both sides fouling out in the first ten minutes.
I love Maryland's chances in the NIT! Fear the TWERPS!
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Old 03-08-2005, 04:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Both teams suck, but Duke sucks more.

Here's rooting for a 2-0 Tar Heel win with the top seven on both sides fouling out in the first ten minutes.
Don't hate the team, hate the game. You've got two wins this year against us but you're still not dancin' bro.

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Old 03-08-2005, 05:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Don't hate the team, hate the game. You've got two wins this year against us but you're still not dancin' bro.
That's not a definite. Even though I think that losing your last three games when you only needed to win one should put a team on the outside, word has it that NC State is "more on the bubble" than Maryland. You never do know until selection Sunday though.
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Old 03-10-2005, 05:46 AM   #34 (permalink)
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That's not a definite. Even though I think that losing your last three games when you only needed to win one should put a team on the outside, word has it that NC State is "more on the bubble" than Maryland. You never do know until selection Sunday though.
Dude I'm from Maryland and really really like the team. However I have been a Duke fan for the last 15 years and put them a half notch above the Terps on my favorites scale. I just get soooo sick of all the Duke haters and especially the ones from MD. They win a against Duke and it's like they've won the SB,WS, AND NCAAs all in the same game. I think MD will get in and hope they do. They are an up and down team but if they can get hot at the right time, can do a lot of damage in the tourney.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:15 AM   #35 (permalink)
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there's only one way maryland is gonna dance..and that's if they somehow won the ACC tourney. We know that's not going to happen.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I think its possible for maryland to do well in the acc tourney.... however we will see. Then again im a bit of an optimist this year since my team is Georgia Tech.....
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Old 03-10-2005, 05:48 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I think its possible for maryland to do well in the acc tourney.... however we will see. Then again im a bit of an optimist this year since my team is Georgia Tech.....
A 12 point loss makes it necessary for them to deserve a 1 or 2 seed in the NIT. End of story. Potential and toughness of schedule is one thing but the results of a NCAA tournament win a couple of years ago is an entirely different animal. Once you step up to the plate and let the world know you're ready to compete and get targeted everyday, like Duke has for the last 15 years, necessitates your club to keep up that level of competitiveness if they want to be considered a national powerhouse. MD has failed to hold up to their end of the bargain and have shown that it's a VERY difficult thing to sustain that level of success. The Terps could have and should have made the dance if they did as they could and should have done.... win more consistently against other clubs besides Duke. I don't want this to come off as a I hate MD thing because that's not the case at all. I love MD. My 5 year old has nothing but Terp stuff that he wears and exibits on his bed as huge pillows. I know I'm an outlier in the MD/DC/Nation as a card carrying Duke fan. I initially loved Hurley and Laettner, the Hills and Davis; et al. I now love to follow the program for it's incredible coach and the way he carries himself, leads his program, and expounds the virtues of the college game. The program also exists in one of the 10 most academically challenging universities in the country. I think it's a program, coach, and player set that for the most part, is one derserving of the "role model" tag. I know success breeds recruitment and thus success; however Duke has lately been hit by the same "leave early" contagion that all the institutions in the country have been dealing with for years. Through it all they still seem to perservere by holding up their end of the bargain as a perenial contender. MD will be fine next year and moving forward, will be even better. They will gain their consistency and WILL build a dynasty with a coach the caliber of Gary Willaims. I want every Duke hater to really try to internalize my perspective as a MD homeboy who loves the Terps but puts the Durham Dreg ever so slightly above the home team. There is a method behind the "madness". Djtestudo, I hope you read this because I truly respect the insight you bring to this SPORTS forum and would really enjoy your feedback as well as any others who would like to comment.

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Old 03-10-2005, 06:16 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I agree, I felt it would have been justified even if Maryland didn't make it even with a decent ACC tournament showing. They lost three consecutive games, and were swept by another ACC bubble team (NC State). After todayís loss, I don't think they deserve a bid.

I respect your views on Duke. I don't like them, but that doesn't equate to a lack of respect for what they accomplish.

I have to harp on one thing though.

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You said it at first, success breeds recruitment and thus success. Losing players early doesn't hurt them more than any other program. Foremost, because even if they have more players inclined to leave early, they always have a top 5 recruiting class to fill that void. Subsequently, they can play freshman like Duhon, Reddick, Ewing, etc, significant minutes. Players have been leaving early for the draft more than a decade, and I just don't think it should be an additional component to praise a team about.

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Old 03-10-2005, 07:10 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I think Maryland still has a good shot at a bid, but they do not deserve it at all.

The team this year never gelled, and was only able to get up for Duke (who they were essentially a perfect match with).

This was possibly the most talented team at Maryland since Gary Williams has been coach (three, I believe, McDonald's All-Americans and a bunch of Top 100 guys), but it was never all brought together. The inside guys weren't playing inside, and the team with a few exceptions wasn't a good defensive team.

The good thing is that Will Bowers seems to be emerging as a solid at least inside guy for next year, while John Gilchrist can put the team on his back (he was injured today for the second half). Chris McCray is a good shooter and a great defender. Nick Caner-Medley is inconsistant, but very tough to defend when he's on. James Gist looks like he'll be a major force in the conference as well.

I have hope for next year, especially against Duke , and believe this was simply a lost season that won't be repeated.
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