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Old 02-13-2005, 06:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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TFP 2005 Fantasy Baseball preperation thread

Hey all.

Each year we wind up having a fun time doing The TFP Fantasy baseball league.

I was thinking that this year instead of someone just setting up a league and inviting people that we all discuss how we want the league set up this year.

Ill start off by posting categories with choices for each.
each person in there reply posts the category number and the answer number for each and then their comments suggestions questions etc.

1) Type of League

a) Roto
b) head 2 head

2) Auction?

a) Auction draft
b) reguler draft
c) No Auction

2b) (Only if we choose auction) Salary Cap

A) 20 Mil
B) 30 Mil
c) 50 MIL
d) 60 MIl
e) 75 Mil


3) Keeper?

a) No Keepers
b) Bulk team keeper ( 9 or more keepers per team)
c) 1 keeper per team
d )2 keeper per team

4) League Platform

a) Yahoo (like always)
b) Yahoo Plus
c) other pay league such as MLB, espn etc.. (some have prizes)
d) other free league like Yahoo.
e) our own platform where we have to write everything down and keep track on our own

5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes?

a) Yes
b) No
c) maybe I need to think about it.

5a) (only if we choose prizes) do we want to pay for add drops?

a) Yes
b) No

6) Amount of teams

a) 12
b) 14
c) 16
d) 20
e) 26
f) 30
g) 8

8) stats

a) only positive stats such as steals hr etc.
b) positive and negative would include stuff like walks allowed Strike outs ( batters) etc.

9) Amount of stats ( X hitting stats by X Pitching stats)

a) 5 x 5
b) 6 x 6
c) 8 x 8
d) other

10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position

a) 18
b) 20
c) 21
d) 22
e) 24
f) 25
g) 26
H) other

11) Injured list

a) none
b) one
c) two
d) three
f) four

12) Waiver Time

a) none
b) 1 day
c) 2 day
d) 3 day

13) Vetoes

a) No veto (not a good Idea)
b) Commish does votoes
c) League votes veto

Anyhow these are just a few things to think about.
You can vote on none all or some of the questions.
It is up to you. at least now we all can really craft this into a fun league.
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1. Roto is fine

2. Regular serpentine draft

3. No keepers, maybe in the middle of this season work something out then we can do keepers for the '06 season

4. Yahoo is fine, Plus is an option but I do not know what it would cost, again something to look into

5.Don't know about seperate fees, especially if we do a pay Yahoo league or something else involving costs to cover the league in general

I will cover everyting else in one point here since I am too lazy to keep checking numbers and questions. Last year's league ran by Donuts/Dylan? was a good time for all, I think we had 12-14 teams but I think we went waaaay over the top for teams and stats. 20something scoring categories was a lot imho and have never done a league with soo many stats involved. Again I say I had a blast and willing to do it all over again, but was a bit much at times I think.
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yea, last year was cool. it was a hella a lot of stats though.
I was first place all year long though
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chauncey
Hey all.

Each year we wind up having a fun time doing The TFP Fantasy baseball league.

I was thinking that this year instead of someone just setting up a league and inviting people that we all discuss how we want the league set up this year.

Ill start off by posting categories with choices for each.
each person in there reply posts the category number and the answer number for each and then their comments suggestions questions etc.
I recommend/use:

  • 1) Type of League: Head 2 Head

    2) Auction or Regular Draft: Regular Draft

    3) Keeper? Keeper would be great, but that can be something that can be worked out as the season progresses and you get an idea of how many members are active..

    4) League Platform: Yahoo, providing MLB.com's exclusivity deal doesn't prevent Yahoo from hosting leagues.

    5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes? Maybe.. If it's reasonable, and still has fun as the focus, sure. This also encourages activity.

    5a) (only if we choose prizes) do we want to pay for add drops? Not sure I understand this question.

    6) Amount of teams 12-14 should leave a nice mix of talent/scrubs on waivers.

    8) Stats: Generally positive, with possibly 1 negative to keep it fun. I use: R, HR, RBI, SB, K, OBP, W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

    9) Amount of stats: 5 x 5 +1 negative for each (hitting/batting)

    10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position: 25, I use: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

    11) Injured list: 2 DL spots

    12) Waiver Time: 2 Days

    13) Vetoes: League Votes. Allows the commish to be impartiel and a player instead of supreme commander, that is going to upset one side by manually overriding trades. With active owners, League vote is ideal IMO.

That is what I use in my league I run for friends. I've been running fantasy leagues for a few years and have settled on these settings, and use them from year to year.

They work well for my leagues and may give you and others an idea and something to work with, or start from..

I'd definitely be interested in this league if there are still openings.

Take care.
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Type of League

a) Roto
b) head 2 head

Both have + and -, I prefer Roto because it is solely stat based and shows who builds a stronger team. H2H is cool tho because you have to stay truly up to date.

2) Auction?

a) Auction draft= this keeps things pretty fair

2b) (Only if we choose auction) Salary Cap

c) 50 MIL= a nice sum and I truly like the idea of a cap

3) Keeper?

b) Bulk team keeper ( 9 or more keepers per team)= Keepers keep people truly into it. Also, I think we should after 9th round of draft just choose a MLB team and we get that team's players to fill out the roster.

Platform?
a) Yahoo (like always)

yahoo is by far the best, noone can touch them

e) our own platform where we have to write everything down and keep track on our own

If we go keeper, I think we should have a webpage (Geocities) that we can truly keep track of F/A, who has what money left, etc.

5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes?

c) maybe I need to think about it.

Depends on keeper situation and how things go. We could end up with a group losing and they decide to trade with #2 or #3 to prevent #1 from winning..... in that case it would be a ripoff


5a) (only if we choose prizes) do we want to pay for add drops?

b) No

We want to be able to keep this affordable. Someone could get hit hard with a DL problem for 2 weeks and have to pay out the ass just to field a decent team, then pay again to drop the guys.

However, if we draft teams and are in a keeper league we automatically would have backups so then the add/drop would only be for true F/A and I could see a charge for that then.


6) Amount of teams

a) 12-14

Is the ideal #, spreads talent equally.




8) stats

a) only positive stats such as steals hr etc.


9) Amount of stats ( X hitting stats by X Pitching stats)

a) 5 x 5 or 6 x 6

I'm old fashioned keep the stats simple



10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position

f) 25

11) Injured list

d) three

12) Waiver Time

b) 2 days

13) Vetoes

c) League votes veto but Commish can have final say

If people drop and people go on vacation you could see trades slide thru easily.... or the league vetoing a trade simply because 3 people don't like one of the guys trading.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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head 2 head
regular draft
No Keepers
Yahoo (like always) or Yahoo Plus; I'm cool with either
No on the entry fee/prize
Amount of teams: 12
positive and negative stats for sure
6 x 6
18 - 21 players per team
two injured player slots per team
2 day waiver period
League votes veto


On a side note, I didn't organize the Baseball League last year; I did the football league. I've always found that a smaller league coupled with a nice mixture of stats always works better. Yahoo! is the best and easiest medium to set the league up.
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would love to participate....Im fully active and always a menace to win a league so I shouldnt let u down

email me when/if you have details. hallgeo@yahoo.com

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Old 02-15-2005, 10:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would also love to participate! Beeting up hapless co-workers has lost its glory... I vote Roto versus head to head, with a decent roster size and some sort of IL.
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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1) Type of League

b) head 2 head

2) Auction?

b) reguler draft


2b) (Only if we choose auction) Salary Cap

No Cap


3) Keeper?

a) No Keepers

4) League Platform

a) Yahoo (like always)
or
d) other free league like Yahoo.

5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes?

b) No
or
c) maybe I need to think about it.

5a) (only if we choose prizes) do we want to pay for add drops?

b) No

6) Amount of teams

d) 20

8) stats
9) Amount of stats ( X hitting stats by X Pitching stats)
Offensive: R, RBI, (SB-CS), OBP, SLG, GIDP
Pitching: W, SV, H, ERA, K, WHIP
I hate the idea of adding K to hitting stats. An out is an out. I'd rather see GIDP since it is much more detrimental to a ralley and adds a level of unpredictability. I really like using SLG instead of HR because it greatly increases the value of all non-HR guys. I think it's a much better indicator of offensive production.
(SB-CS) is also great because it penalizes a player like Juan Pierre who, even though be piles up a lot of SB, he gets CS so much that it is almost detrimental to the team. On the other hand, Dave Roberts and Podsednik were almost perfect last season.

If the league is large ~20 or more teams, the closers will be gone fast. People will have to stock up on MR guys who have zero value other than K's, ERA, and WHIP. Adding H gives the players value and discourages the stockpiling of closers since you need H and SV.


10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position


f) 25

25 is an upper limit, we really could go down to 20. We should not exceed 25 since ML rosters can exceed 25.

11) Injured list

b) one
c) two
I think we should add in a provision that players cannot be kept on the DL for more than a couple days after they lose DL status. That way the players cannot be hidden.

12) Waiver Time

c) 2 day

13) Vetoes

c) League votes veto
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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1) Type of League

a) Roto
b) head 2 head

ROTO I hate head to head

2) Auction?

a) Auction draft
b) reguler draft
c) No Auction

NO AUCTION

2b) (Only if we choose auction) Salary Cap

A) 20 Mil
B) 30 Mil
c) 50 MIL
d) 60 MIl
e) 75 Mil

50 MIL


3) Keeper?

a) No Keepers
b) Bulk team keeper ( 9 or more keepers per team)
c) 1 keeper per team
d )2 keeper per team

YES 2 per team

4) League Platform

a) Yahoo (like always)
b) Yahoo Plus
c) other pay league such as MLB, espn etc.. (some have prizes)
d) other free league like Yahoo.
e) our own platform where we have to write everything down and keep track on our own

YAHOO

5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes?

a) Yes
b) No
c) maybe I need to think about it.

C

5a) (only if we choose prizes) do we want to pay for add drops?

a) Yes
b) No

NO

6) Amount of teams

a) 12
b) 14
c) 16
d) 20
e) 26
f) 30
g) 8

12

8) stats

a) only positive stats such as steals hr etc.
b) positive and negative would include stuff like walks allowed Strike outs ( batters) etc.

B

9) Amount of stats ( X hitting stats by X Pitching stats)

a) 5 x 5
b) 6 x 6
c) 8 x 8
d) other

6X6

10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position

a) 18
b) 20
c) 21
d) 22
e) 24
f) 25
g) 26
H) other

21

11) Injured list

a) none
b) one
c) two
d) three
f) four

TWO

12) Waiver Time

a) none
b) 1 day
c) 2 day
d) 3 day

2 DAYS

13) Vetoes

a) No veto (not a good Idea)
b) Commish does votoes
c) League votes veto

League Votes
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimellow
I recommend/use:

  • 1) Type of League: Head 2 Head

    2) Auction or Regular Draft: Regular Draft

    3) Keeper? Keeper would be great, but that can be something that can be worked out as the season progresses and you get an idea of how many members are active..

    4) League Platform: Yahoo, providing MLB.com's exclusivity deal doesn't prevent Yahoo from hosting leagues.

    5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes? Maybe.. If it's reasonable, and still has fun as the focus, sure. This also encourages activity.

    5a) (only if we choose prizes) do we want to pay for add drops? Not sure I understand this question.

    6) Amount of teams 12-14 should leave a nice mix of talent/scrubs on waivers.

    8) Stats: Generally positive, with possibly 1 negative to keep it fun. I use: R, HR, RBI, SB, K, OBP, W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

    9) Amount of stats: 5 x 5 +1 negative for each (hitting/batting)

    10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position: 25, I use: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

    11) Injured list: 2 DL spots

    12) Waiver Time: 2 Days

    13) Vetoes: League Votes. Allows the commish to be impartiel and a player instead of supreme commander, that is going to upset one side by manually overriding trades. With active owners, League vote is ideal IMO.

That is what I use in my league I run for friends. I've been running fantasy leagues for a few years and have settled on these settings, and use them from year to year.

They work well for my leagues and may give you and others an idea and something to work with, or start from..

I'd definitely be interested in this league if there are still openings.

Take care.
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Old 02-16-2005, 10:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Who was the Commish last year? I forgot
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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1) Type of League
b) head 2 head

2) Auction?
b) reguler draft

3) Keeper?
I think keepers would be fun especially with all the steroid controversy going down. You never know who's going to be playing or not. Lot's of trading gauranteed!!
b) Bulk team keeper ( 9 or more keepers per team)

4) League Platform
a) Yahoo (like always)

5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes?
b) No
c) maybe I need to think about it. ahhh I thought about it...whatever you decide is fine with me.


6) Amount of teams
d) 20
e) 26


8) stats
b) positive and negative would include stuff like walks allowed Strike outs ( batters) etc.

9) Amount of stats ( X hitting stats by X Pitching stats)
c) 8 x 8

10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position
e) 24


11) Injured list
c) two


12) Waiver Time
a) none

13) Vetoes
a) No veto (not a good Idea)

That's my two cents.......I've played in this league the last two years and I participate to the end. Was quite successful last year......

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Old 02-16-2005, 12:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Quote:
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Who was the Commish last year? I forgot
I thought it was Halx but I could be wrong.

BTW, yahoo!'s fantasy baseball is starting up on February 17th.
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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1) Type of League:
H2H -- it's more fun to have an actual opponent each week.

2) Auction?
No -- it should be a regular "live" draft... sometime in mid-late March.

3) Keeper?
No -- too much turnover (of TFP teams) from one season to the next.

4) League Platform:
Yahoo (1st choice)... but, another free league like Yahoo would also be fine.

5) Do we want our own entry fee that goes towards prizes?
Yes, but it's not a big deal.

5a) (only if we choose prizes) do we want to pay for add drops?
No... absolutely not!

6) Amount of teams:
12 -- but, anywhere from 8-16 is ok with me.

7)
???

8) stats:
positive and negative -- it's good to have a balance of quality vs. quantity.

9) Amount of stats ( X hitting stats by X Pitching stats):
other (it should be more), but at least 8 x 8 would be ok.

10) Amount of players This includes all roster, bench, dh and utility position:
22.

11) Injured list:
two.

12) Waiver Time:
2 day

13) Vetoes:
League votes veto -- hopefully, it won't happen... but it would deter collusion.

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Old 02-16-2005, 02:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well we already have a few replys and a league probably won't have more than 12-14 teams on it. It's likely that there are many more people who would join in.

There seems to be a pretty equal split between those who want H2H and those who want Roto. Why don't we set up one of each? If there are extra teams available, I'm sure there are people here who would happily take a team in each league.

Why don't we split this into two threads, one for roto and one for h2h and ask the questions again?
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'd be interested in a roto league...yahoo is cool with me
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I like H2H w/ Live draft and Yahoo's always been my league of choice..
but I'd have no problems with other free leagues..

I've never tried an auction draft.. sounds intriguing.. more than 12 teams seems a little too much

3 injured.. commish rejects and i've played w/ up to 10x10 stats so.. 8x8 seems arite.. w0rd
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok , lets do it how about this.

We have the reg head to head league and a roto league.

I can GM the ROTo one. Ill start the 2 threads
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