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Old 02-18-2005, 03:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Oregon attempting to ban state schools from BCS

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?s...v=ap&type=lgns
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EUGENE, Ore. (AP) -- State Sen. Ryan Deckert, D-Beaverton, is ready to punt a bill that would bar Oregon and Oregon State from appearing in college football's Bowl Championship Series.

Deckert, who introduced the bill because of his disdain for the college football ranking system, says he will instead offer a non-binding resolution that puts the BCS on notice without penalizing Oregon schools.

"I feel that's the right tone right now,'' Deckert said Thursday.

The BCS, a confederation of the major college football conferences, uses the ranking system to decide which teams play in the major bowl games and select the two teams that compete for the national championship.

Pacific-10 Conference fans have been miffed at some recent pairings, including the 2001 decision that denied Oregon a shot at the national championship.

More recent choices have bumped other Pac-10 teams out of bowl or championship games, denying the conference the large payouts that come with major bowl appearances. The conference splits that revenue among all teams, meaning less money went to both the UO and OSU.

That's what inspired Deckert to write Senate Bill 416. After reciting a litany of grievances against the bowl series, the bill declares BCS games off limits to the two Oregon schools beginning with the 2008 season.

That soon caught the attention of UO officials, who went into a quick huddle and decided to run a blocking pattern. University President Dave Frohnmayer is playing a role in a current effort to reform the BCS.

"We have talked to Sen. Deckert at great length and he understands what our concerns are,'' said Dan Williams, the UO's vice president for administration. "It is our expectation that this bill may not move out of committee.''

The bill has also lost one of its co-sponsors. Sen. Floyd Prozanski, D-Eugene, signed onto the bill thinking Deckert had cleared it with the universities; when he found out that wasn't the case, he withdrew his name and support.

Prozanski said he won't support a resolution without hearing Frohnmayer's view. And Deckert said the UO president's role in the BCS reform effort played a role in his desire to limit the legislation to a nonbinding resolution.

Deckert isn't the only legislator wanting to tackle the BCS. A California lawmaker has filed a non-binding resolution calling for the dissolution of the BCS, and a Texas legislator has proposed a law that would ban schools in that state from playing in a BCS game once at least four other states join the ban.
VERY interesting.

At least three states are willing to use their legislatures to get a better system then the BCS.

As an opponent of the system, I agree with the attempts. The university presidents are not looking out for anyone's interests, and if it takes the bosses of those presidents, the state governments, to get them to move, I'm all for it.
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Grrrrr.... first of all, whoever wrote the article is an idiot because it was the BEAVERS who were denied a shot at the national championship in 2001, not the ducks.

but, with all that aside, THIS SUCKS!!! that means my beavers won't be able to play in a big bowl game again?!?! wtf? i mean, i don't like the BCS as much as the next guy, but if it so happens that the beavs, or even the ducks, could get to a bowl game, they would be out a large sum of money that they would make from the apperance.

but the chance of the beavers or the ducks going to a BCS game are pretty slim, so it probably really doesn't matter.
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Old 02-18-2005, 05:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Grrrrr.... first of all, whoever wrote the article is an idiot because it was the BEAVERS who were denied a shot at the national championship in 2001, not the ducks.

but, with all that aside, THIS SUCKS!!! that means my beavers won't be able to play in a big bowl game again?!?! wtf? i mean, i don't like the BCS as much as the next guy, but if it so happens that the beavs, or even the ducks, could get to a bowl game, they would be out a large sum of money that they would make from the apperance.

but the chance of the beavers or the ducks going to a BCS game are pretty slim, so it probably really doesn't matter.
Unless I'm remembering it wrong that was the Ducks, because it was Joey Harrington on the team.
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Old 02-18-2005, 05:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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re: national championship in 2001...

1. it was definitely the Ducks (Oregon State went 5-6 that year).
2. Oregon screwed themselves by losing AT HOME to Stanford.
3. Miami would've beaten 'em anyway!
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Old 02-18-2005, 06:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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okay, my deepest apologies... really. i was very incorrect in thinking that 2001 was OSU's 11-1 season. my bad. please don't be mad.
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The BCS is a bullshit system, all the non-big conference teams are screwed to begin with and they can't choose a decent college championship game for shit. The last one was ridiculous. And the Oregon schools have hit the short end of the stick more than once; I feel their pain but their state putting them at risk to going to a championship game...stupid.
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Old 02-21-2005, 05:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would bet money that Mr Deckert is in Phil Knight's pocket.
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The university presidents in the major conferences have a cash cow in the BCS... every one of them is guaranteed millions each year. The system is horrible and needs to be replaced with a playoff. Playoffs work perfectly in the other levels of NCAA football, but the big money is keeping the fans from enjoying something that would be as great as the basketball tourney, or even possibly better.
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The BCS is unfair to some conferences/teams, and they miss out on some serious cash. However, it is more than the BCS; it is the NCAA as a whole. They don’t allow stipends for players, some which are in need, and they make serious cash off players. That argument is more deep than that, but it is clear that players receive "intangible" benefits (exposure, education), and the NCAA receives tangible benefits ($). The NCAA didn't budge on Jeremy Bloom and his legit endorsements for something unrelated to his collegiate football career, and they penalized Mike Williams for declaring early after it was deemed legal.

I would love to see litigation to change a system that affects the NCAA.
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Old 02-22-2005, 08:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I hate the BCS, it's such a garbage system. There is never going to be an exact way to create a perfect championship game through the use of computers. I feel that there should be a playoff (as some others have said), I don't have any kind of a plan in mind, I just feel like it needs to happen. It should be the top 8 teams or something of that nature, and just let them play it out, so nobody can question why the championship game involves the teams that are in it. There shouldn't be a debate about it, it's nonsensical.
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Old 02-23-2005, 10:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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That's just what we need.. government deciding the best teams to play for a mythical national championship.
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