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Old 04-27-2003, 03:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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DVD content on CDR?

I've heard you can burn DVD content to a CDr and play it (in a few DVD players), but noone really shows how. Googleing leads me no nothing but crap, lots of guides to burn DivX disks .

After encoding it to mpeg-2 in tmpg do i just drop it in a "VIDEO_TS " folder on a CDR?

I have a CD-rw to test, but burning a disk takes awhile.

here are my assets

a 4+GB (3min) raw AVI (720x486, 48k audio)
the resulting 151MB MPG file
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Old 04-27-2003, 04:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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did you have a look at this site -

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

?

is the new URL for VCDhelp, which is def. the best site for such things.
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Old 04-27-2003, 04:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can't burn DVD to CDRW on the fly simply because DVD's typically have 2-4 GB packed on to them per movie (not counting all the extra shit and language tracks). The newest dual layered DVD's can store up to 9 GB of data. A typical CDR/CDRW will give you a measely 750 MB.

What you can do is rip a DVD movie to either MPEG-4 or Divx, which will compress the movie enough to fit on a CD-R. You then burn the movie to disc and you'll be able to watch it on CD-ROM drives.

If you want to watch a CD-R on a standard DVD player, you'll have to make a VCD, most standard DVD players can't read MPEG-4 or Divx. Let me warn you though, VCD's look about as good as my grandmother, and she's dead.

I dabbled with this a bit about a year ago and promptly said fuck it, so I'm sorry I don't have any specific resources I can point you towards. IMO, video ripping is a way too much trouble to be worth it. I seem to remember Tom's Hardware having some pretty in depth articles about the subject. It was a while ago though, so you'll have to sift through the archives.

Good luck.
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Old 04-27-2003, 06:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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you need some authoring software to write your own dvds ... but when writing on a CDR you're limited to 700mb ...
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Old 04-27-2003, 07:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i use vcd's, they have to be in mpeg-1 to burn.

and they're not too shabby.
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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oki if you want to put a dvd on cdr's then the simplest way would include getting dvd2svcd, going thru the options, there's a guide on the http://www.doom9.org site. So what you would do is downsize the dvd to mpeg2(svcd), that is if your dvd player can play svcd, if not you would down size it to mpeg1(vcd). Also ripping teh movie won't take a long time, but converting the vob's to s/vcd will take a pretty good time, 14 hours on my machine, but that's cuz I have a slower machine, but it will take time.
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Old 04-28-2003, 08:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Nero does VCD's, and they can be made from mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 files. What they look like depends entirely on the quality of the video file. I had a pre-release copy of LOTR 1 and it looked fine without fuzz or pixellatin on a 36" TV. With Nero, tell it to make a video cd, and drag and drop the mpg into the compilation. Don't bother with menus until you at least know it works and you can play vcd's on your DVD player.
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Old 04-28-2003, 10:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info on this. I knew about the different capacities, but I didn't know anything about compressing the movies so they'll fit.

Sigh, guess I'll have to start saving up for a dvd writer.
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Old 05-03-2003, 11:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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heh, this was the problem i had when i searched the net. I'm not ripping a DVD or anything. I got a short video (less than 10mins long) I wanted a high quality portable version (a DVD, but i dont have a burner)

I really didnt want to go with VCD because it's so much lower res than DVD.

What I was looking for is called miniDVD. It's burning all the files for a DVD on a CDr. It doesn't work in most any DVD player because set tops look at the media (DVD, CDR, CDRW) before it looks at the content or format (whether its a VCD, CDaudio, DVD, MP3CD, etc).

Luckly, i got ahold of a DVDR. Yay!
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Old 05-03-2003, 09:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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"when writing on a CDR you're limited to 700mb ..."

unless of course you buy some 800 or 870mb discs. still not enough to burn a bit for bit copy of a dvd, but at least a little better than 700mb.

of course, not many cd burners support the larger capacity discs, but fortunately mine does (latest Lite-On 52x24x52).
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Old 05-03-2003, 09:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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note: reference this thread for information regarding burning cdrs > 700mb

http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread....&threadid=3286
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