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Fallen · 01-03-2004, 10:46 AM

Ok, I get random lockups and blues screens when I play any kind of movie file. It doesn't matter what player I use. I've tried all kinds.

The message on the blue screen was "driver irq not less than or equal to...", or something to that effect.

I've tried reformatting and reinstalling windows. I've swapped out sound cards and video cards. I've removed all the other cards from my system and run it with just sound and video. I've used a dozen different driver versions with my video and sound cards. I've also tried switching my computer from APIC back to standard PC for the IRQ assignments. Basically, I've tried all my limited knowledge of computers allows me to.

If anybody has any ideas or possibly knows what's going on, I'd really appreciate some help.

Here are my system specs:

Athlon 1900 +
1 gig of PC133 SDram
2 40 gig IBM HD in a RAID 0 array
Abit KT7A-RAID motherboard.
Radeon 8500
Sound blaster live 5.1 sound card.
Windows XP SP1

charliex · 01-03-2004, 02:25 PM

if its the same BSOD everytime, its likely some incompatibility going on since you've replaced all the software. Is there one driver thats always the same when you reinstall it ?

if its vastly different ones, its probably a hardware fault.

Either way its a difficult one to diagnose, learning how to use windows debugging tools can help you track down BSODs.

Did it want to submit information to MS after restart, sometimes that helps.

Fallen · 01-03-2004, 02:30 PM

Yeah, it wanted to submit it to windows afterwords. The explaination screen just kept telling me that it was a driver conflict, but it didn't get more specific than that.

I've checked the MS knowledge base a few times, but I simply can't find any info on this problem. It's the same Blue Screen message every time. Like I said, I've swaped out every card. I'm starting to wonder if it's a MB problem. I've even swapped out my ram. the only driver that stays the same every time is my RAID driver. However, I've tried running the movies off different hard drives and even a CD drive and it still does it.

Man, this is really frustrating. I've never seen a problem like it.

Mr.Deflok · 01-03-2004, 03:12 PM

Try increasing the size of your swapfile.

charliex · 01-03-2004, 05:56 PM

if mr defloks suggestion doesn't work make a memory.dmp file for at least the kernel size, full is better but will be the size of your ram usually, then make it available for download and i'll see if i can see what it is, however be warned a memory dump can contain sensitive information, so limit anything you do between switching the pc on and letting it bsod, even then any passwords etc you use might still be in there.

the system control panel under startup and recovery is where the option is to set the dump type, a full memory dump will take a while usually, this is the best option

the caveat is that its a lot harder to investigatge a crash dump on a different system, but i can at least show the trace.

if you dont want to do that , you can try the windows debug tools that are freely downloadable from microsoft, its fairly straightforward, and theres a number of crash dump analysis help pages around.

Fallen · 01-04-2004, 07:55 AM

Thanks guys, I'll give that a try.

flamingpeach · 01-04-2004, 12:08 PM

When you swaped video cards, which kinds were trying?

Also, what mobo and chipset is it running?

Fallen · 01-04-2004, 06:45 PM

I went from my Radeon 8500 to some no name PCI vid card that I had laying around.

The MB is an Abit KT7-A RAID with a Via chipset. I've tried half a dozen different Via drivers as well. It still did it with the PCI vid card in, so I figured I could rule that out. I even made sure to uninstall the Radeon and take it completely out of my system first.

Great Scott · 01-05-2004, 01:11 AM

Got the same sort of error message when I got my latest laptop. Turns out that I was using incompatible RAM. The guy at the shop told me that in the case of hardware conflicts like that you can't always trust the error message. My advice would be to try and change every hardware component out one at a time to see if it would help. Might be your cd-rom drive, memory, etc.

01-03-2004, 10:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Fallen Crazy Location: Adrift In Madness	Blue screen of death playing any sort of movie files Ok, I get random lockups and blues screens when I play any kind of movie file. It doesn't matter what player I use. I've tried all kinds. The message on the blue screen was "driver irq not less than or equal to...", or something to that effect. I've tried reformatting and reinstalling windows. I've swapped out sound cards and video cards. I've removed all the other cards from my system and run it with just sound and video. I've used a dozen different driver versions with my video and sound cards. I've also tried switching my computer from APIC back to standard PC for the IRQ assignments. Basically, I've tried all my limited knowledge of computers allows me to. If anybody has any ideas or possibly knows what's going on, I'd really appreciate some help. Here are my system specs: Athlon 1900 + 1 gig of PC133 SDram 2 40 gig IBM HD in a RAID 0 array Abit KT7A-RAID motherboard. Radeon 8500 Sound blaster live 5.1 sound card. Windows XP SP1 __________________ Overdosed on Apathy

01-03-2004, 02:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
Fallen Crazy Location: Adrift In Madness	Yeah, it wanted to submit it to windows afterwords. The explaination screen just kept telling me that it was a driver conflict, but it didn't get more specific than that. I've checked the MS knowledge base a few times, but I simply can't find any info on this problem. It's the same Blue Screen message every time. Like I said, I've swaped out every card. I'm starting to wonder if it's a MB problem. I've even swapped out my ram. the only driver that stays the same every time is my RAID driver. However, I've tried running the movies off different hard drives and even a CD drive and it still does it. Man, this is really frustrating. I've never seen a problem like it. __________________ Overdosed on Apathy

01-04-2004, 07:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Fallen Crazy Location: Adrift In Madness	Thanks guys, I'll give that a try. __________________ Overdosed on Apathy

01-04-2004, 12:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
flamingpeach hip mama Location: redmond, washington	When you swaped video cards, which kinds were trying? Also, what mobo and chipset is it running? __________________ I've eaten my veggies all my life so bring it on, I am educated and strong for the revolution.

01-04-2004, 06:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Fallen Crazy Location: Adrift In Madness	I went from my Radeon 8500 to some no name PCI vid card that I had laying around. The MB is an Abit KT7-A RAID with a Via chipset. I've tried half a dozen different Via drivers as well. It still did it with the PCI vid card in, so I figured I could rule that out. I even made sure to uninstall the Radeon and take it completely out of my system first. __________________ Overdosed on Apathy

01-03-2004, 02:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Location: North Hollywood	if its the same BSOD everytime, its likely some incompatibility going on since you've replaced all the software. Is there one driver thats always the same when you reinstall it ? if its vastly different ones, its probably a hardware fault. Either way its a difficult one to diagnose, learning how to use windows debugging tools can help you track down BSODs. Did it want to submit information to MS after restart, sometimes that helps.

01-03-2004, 03:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Try increasing the size of your swapfile.

01-03-2004, 05:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Location: North Hollywood	if mr defloks suggestion doesn't work make a memory.dmp file for at least the kernel size, full is better but will be the size of your ram usually, then make it available for download and i'll see if i can see what it is, however be warned a memory dump can contain sensitive information, so limit anything you do between switching the pc on and letting it bsod, even then any passwords etc you use might still be in there. the system control panel under startup and recovery is where the option is to set the dump type, a full memory dump will take a while usually, this is the best option the caveat is that its a lot harder to investigatge a crash dump on a different system, but i can at least show the trace. if you dont want to do that , you can try the windows debug tools that are freely downloadable from microsoft, its fairly straightforward, and theres a number of crash dump analysis help pages around.

01-05-2004, 01:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Great Scott Insane Location: In a huge maze just trying to find my cheese	Got the same sort of error message when I got my latest laptop. Turns out that I was using incompatible RAM. The guy at the shop told me that in the case of hardware conflicts like that you can't always trust the error message. My advice would be to try and change every hardware component out one at a time to see if it would help. Might be your cd-rom drive, memory, etc.