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Old 11-25-2004, 09:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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error on sum web pages

Alright when i try to go to some web pages including this one on the computer in my basment, we use it for just to IM on and play games pretty.
It's windows 98.

i get this message when i go to some webpages

IEXPLORE caused an invalid page fault in
module JSCRIPT.DLL at 0177:7c26820f.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0177 EIP=7c26820f EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00000000 SS=017f ESP=0058d558 EBP=0058d6b0
ECX=01150830 DS=017f ESI=01150830 FS=6aaf
EDX=00000009 ES=017f EDI=011509c0 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 08 ff 51 28 8d be d4 00 00 00 57 ff 15 3c 00
Stack dump:
00000000 011509c0 01150830 7c26488f 0058d7a4 00000000 00000000 00000000 0104783c 74706972 01041e2c 010479f4 00000004 000853b5 03cf0001 010479f4


well the actually message just says explorer has performed an internal error, but when u click details that happens. What should i do to correct the problem?
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Old 11-25-2004, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If a scandisk doesn't fix it, and you don't have any malicious software (viruses, spyware, etc.) onboard, I think I'd just re-image the machine. In fact, if you DO have spyware and crap on the machine, I'd likely just re-image it anyway. It's usually faster to do it this way than manually removing it, depending on the quantities and variations involved.

Windows 98 especially seems to get flaky enough to require this rather drastic step fairly frequently. I always grimace when the flash screen that says "Getting ready to run Windoze '98 for the first time' comes up. I'd like to replace that 'first' with a counter on the number of times it's had to be rebuilt. <sigh>

If you're not familiar with the process, I'd suggest an FDISK, a FORMAT (including system files) then a COPY of the WIN98 dir off the CD-Rom onto a \W98_flat directory on the C: drive, then running SETUP from the C: drive. When you install from C: you don't get asked to 'Insert the Windoze CD' as much, and when you do you can just point to this directory.

Enjoy the experience that is Windoze.
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Old 11-25-2004, 12:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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alright, im gonna be frank with u, i understood like 5 words that u said, so uhhhh

can u dumb it down a notch and go step by step
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Old 11-25-2004, 02:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He said

1) Scan the computer for viruses and spyware
2) If that doesn't fix it, reinstall
3) Start by erasing and reformatting with fdisk.
5) Extract the win 98 CD onto the hard drive and setup that way. Then you don't have to use the CD as much.

He also added that win 98 is almost expected to crap out like this.
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Old 11-25-2004, 03:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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3) Start by erasing and reformatting with fdisk.
5) Extract the win 98 CD onto the hard drive and setup that way. Then you don't have to use the CD as much.


thats the part i dunt understand, i did scan, nothign helped, explain that aprt more
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Old 11-25-2004, 03:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, this would require knowledge of DOS commands. First of all, do you have the win 98 boot floppy? If not, go here to download a version of FDISK. What FDISK does, is allows you to manage partitions on your harddrive. The most common use now is to format a drive (hence the expression, fdisk your harddrive).

To be honest, I haven't worked with 98 in a while. Try popping in the CD when you boot up and see if the CD can do all of this for you. It'll probably be a little less stressful. If it can't, you'll have to run FDISK to reformat your drive, then install 98.
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Old 11-25-2004, 06:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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alright, im gonna be frank with u, i understood like 5 words that u said, so uhhhh can u dumb it down a notch and go step by step
Sorry, maybe this will help. Forgive the spoon-feeding, if there are parts that I detail too well...

1. Open Windows Explorer, using either the Windows key + 'E' macro, or using whatever method you prefer.

2. Find the C: drive on the Explorer window. Right-click on the C: drive, and left click on Properties on the context menu that pops up.

3. Find and select the 'Tools' tab in the resultant window.

4. Choose the option to 'Scan this drive for errors', and select 'Fix automatically'.

5. If Windoze reports "Scandisk found errors on this drive and fixed them all." you may be fortunate enough that your computer will begin behaving again. If it doesn't, you may want to follow the steps below, or simply skip to step 9.

6. Scan your computer for viruses. I like the online virus scanners, but that likely won't be an option for you because they're usually either dependant on Active X controls (IE required) and/or Java (the problem you're having). Interestingly, some virii are 'smart' enough to attempt to prevent you from scanning for them and removing them. If you have an up to date virus scanner installed, you can try it but if it appears to be running and doesn't find anything you really can't necessarily trust the results.

7. Scan your computer for spyware/trojans/New.net/crap. Remove it, delete it, purge it from your system in whatever way you are able to.

8. The easiest way to get rid of problems caused by malicious software (items 6 & 7) is IMHO to re-partition and reformat your computer, then reload your operating system. This is of course DATA DESTRUCTIVE, so make sure you back up anything you care about. This may include tax returns, photos of your date, or your bookmarks file. My buddy always forgets to back up his bookmarks before he does this, so it is a source of much amusement for me.

9. Ideally, you already have a Windows 98 startup disk. You really don't want to have to create one on this computer, because we suspect it's infected and your startup disk would therefore also be infected. If you have one great, if you can make one on a friend's machine that isn't fsck'ed, fine. If you have no other option, proceed without. <sigh>

10. Shut the power off to your computer.

11. Boot from your Startup Disk, if you have one. You won't need CD-Rom support just yet, so select "Boot without..." for now.

12. Once you're up and running, type "FDISK" without the quotes. If it prompts you about whether you want large disk support or not, select 'Yes'.

13. Hopefully, your hard drive has only one partition. Select 'Delete Partition' and follow the prompts through to delete your primary disk partition.

14. Select "Create Primary Disk partition" and tell it you want to use all the space available. If you get prompted to make it active, do so - you'll need the boot partition active.

15. ESC out of the FDISK routine once you're done configuring your partitions, and reboot, again from your startup disk. (If you don't have one, or can't get one, you'll have to boot from the CD-Rom and search the disk for the FDISK and FORMAT commands. It's a large pain-in-the-ass (PITA), and I hope you have a good startup disk).

16. Now you can enable CD-Rom support during the boot. Once you're up and running, type the following (again without the quotes) at the DOS prompt: "FORMAT C:/Q/U/S". I think with Win98 the /U switch is redundant, but I still use it. Can't hurt, right?

17. Okay, you've got a formatted, bootable C: drive. Remove the floppy disk from the drive.

18. Type "C:" and hit [Enter]

19. Type "md W98_flat [Enter]"

20. Type "copy D:\Win98\*.* c:\win98_flat [Enter]"

21. Once the files have copied, remove the CD-Rom from your drive and reboot.

22. Type "cd w98_flat [Enter]"

23. Type "setup [Enter]"

And from there you're on your own. The operating system should install itself from there just fine, and if you're ever prompted to put your Windoze 98 disk in the drive again, just browse to that W98_flat directory in the dialog that's asking for it.

Good luck.

*EDIT - almost forgot the most important steps!! If you have it available, install an antivirus product before you connect to the internet. If you don't, you should get one ASAP, but first hit the Windows Update site and download and install all available critical updates. Keep doing that until there are no more.

THEN, once you've installed some anti-virus (and maybe anti-spyware) hit the www.mozilla.org site and download Firefox and Thunderbird. They'll help keep your computer running smoothly by encouraging you to not use the security hole ridden apps built into Windoze. BAHAHAA - M$ actually released a picture of the MSN Search site on a Firefox browser as a press release yesterday. Of course, they're denying it ever happened by now...
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Old 11-25-2004, 07:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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BAHAHAA - M$ actually released a picture of the MSN Search site on a Firefox browser as a press release yesterday. Of course, they're denying it ever happened by now...
PICS. NOW.

Oh, and also make sure you install a firewall.
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