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Old 12-04-2004, 05:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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cooling question

alright.. when i first put my system together i was idle at 33 C and full load at 44 C.. that was a month ago... and now my idle is around ~40 C and full load is ~50 C ... any ideas what i can try and do to get my old temps back?..

Amd64 3500+
Artic Silver 5
ZALMAN CNPS7000A -- http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...=ZALMAN%20TECH
Asus A8V Deluxe
Antec 1080 case
5 fans total
2 front
2 rear
1 side panel (blowing out)

any suggestions would be great..
and im not overclocking at all..
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Old 12-04-2004, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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clean the heat sink. dust builds up andblocks airflow, i clean mine once a month or so
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Old 12-04-2004, 06:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i clean all the fans and heatsink about once a week.. i got a few pets so im kina paranoid about that shit lol..
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I got an AMD 2600+ with the factory fan.
Temps were higher then I liked so I put a TMD (Tip Magnetic Drive) fan and lowered my temp 17 degrees across all aspects of usage.
I'm sold on these fans and will put one in every machine I ever build in the future.
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/revie...tec/va4-c7040/
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Old 12-05-2004, 07:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I got an AMD 2600+ with the factory fan.
Temps were higher then I liked so I put a TMD (Tip Magnetic Drive) fan and lowered my temp 17 degrees across all aspects of usage.
I'm sold on these fans and will put one in every machine I ever build in the future.
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/revie...tec/va4-c7040/
the 2600 is a diff socket size.. and i checked that site.. they dont make any for the s939 chips thx tho
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Old 12-05-2004, 09:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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the problem i found is that even though you are cleaning off the dust, there is still a film buildup on the fins that dont brush away. You could remove it from your system and use a cleaner and a toothbrush to break up the film and rinse it away. Or with winter here just remember the heat in your house is on and that is going to drive up your temps no matter what, unless you run a duct outside and pull in cold air.
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Old 12-06-2004, 04:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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hrmm.. the duct idea would work! lol.. but my neighbors would think im insane.. well they probly do alrdy but meh..

hrmm.. who knows... i'll keep tryin some shit out.. thx for the input tho
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Old 12-06-2004, 08:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Amd64 3500+
Artic Silver 5
ZALMAN CNPS7000A -- http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...=ZALMAN%20TECH
Asus A8V Deluxe
Antec 1080 case
5 fans total
2 front
2 rear
1 side panel (blowing out)
You say that the side fan is blowing out?... I Googled your case and it looks like it has really good cooling... for shits and grins you should try to flip the side fan over and have it blow into the case. It would be perfect if it were ducted to fit right over the cpu... but it's probably not warrented here.

Let us know what the temp difference is (if any).
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Old 12-07-2004, 01:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It might be interesting to see how the airflow works inside your case. Just bolting on extra fans isn't always the best solution. You need to actually plan your system for it to be effective.

For example, in my chieftec case, the situation now is that two coolers draw hot air out the back, *and* suck in cool air through the side hole of the case, which just happens to go straight over my videocard, cooling that better. Were I to put two extra fans towards the front of the case, blowing in, there would hardly be a difference in temperature (I tried) overall, and my videocard would get hotter.

By the way, you say you remove the dust from your coolers every week. Do you also remove any dust that could be hidden in the hard-to-reach areas of your case? My Chieftec case has a plastic front, and there's always a lot of dust settling between the plastic and the metal of the case itself. That dust is hard to see and remove, but if you don't remove it, it could eventually block the front fans.
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:13 AM   #10 (permalink)
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All these situations are why i choose to have a completely fanless computer, other than the psu that is.
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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All these situations are why i choose to have a completely fanless computer, other than the psu that is.
The fact that there's a question of how to set up a good air-flow, and that temperatures rise over time is the reason you choose to go fanless?

Fanless is a nice idea, and it works in some instances, but generally, temperatures are higher than with aircooling. You also have a big problem if you want to get a state-of-the-art gaming machine - how do you passively cool a x800xt videocard without it overheating???

Fanless computers are great for the sound levels (I'm very interested in that subject), but they do have their problems.

FYI, I have a fan-based cooling setup, where the total noise is very low indeed. When I turn the fan speeds down, all I can hear is my PSU fan (12cm papst fan at 1200 rpm, which is still kinda loud compared to some other low-noise PSUs). When I want to play games, I increase the fan speeds to moderate sound levels, and can keep temperatures in check. Even when running with maximum fan rpms, my computer is pretty quiet compared to most systems I've heard. If you want to compare it to something: it's more quiet than one stock Intel P4 cooler, or one of those typical high-end videocard coolers.

(Another thing though: have you ever heard one of the "older" HP or Dell computers, pre-socket 775 P4s? Even with fans, they're pretty much silent. Impressive.)
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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All these situations are why i choose to have a completely fanless computer, other than the psu that is.
Well, here you go... you can even do away with your psu and go "fanless"... it just sounds so dirty!! haha
http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/mer...duct_Code=7225
Coolmax CF-480B 480W Fanless ATX Power Supply
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If your computer is anywhere near a window. just hit the hardware store and get one of those flexshaft dryer vents, take some plywood and cut a porton of it out to feed the ducting in and cut the rest to fit a portion of the open window. Shut the window on the plywood to hold it in place and seal the window around the duct with that window shrink wrap. Works great in a pinch.
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