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Meditrina · 10-06-2005, 10:43 AM

http://www.worldstart.com/clipboardtest/

Before I go changing anything on my laptop, can someone tell me if the above link is a hoax or not? If it is for real, I think I will be changing to Firefox real soon.

Lucifer · 10-06-2005, 10:49 AM

I don't know, but when i followed their instructions, my CounterSpy popped up a box that said that the last action had lowered my security level to below minimum. Now I trust CounterSpy more than I trust some website, so I don't think I will do as they say!

CSflim · 10-06-2005, 10:54 AM

Yes it is for real. Don't copy sensitive information to the clipboard.

Jinn · 10-06-2005, 11:26 AM

Didn't work in Firefox.

If you look at the page, though.. you can see exactly what they were doing:

Code:

var content = clipboardData.getData("Text");
if (content!=null) {
document.write(...)

Realistically, though, I think the risk is pretty low. So they've got your credit card number or something. Unless you give them enough information (like your WHOLE credit information, address, etc..) they just have a bunch of junk numbers or characters from everyone who connects to the website.

Marvelous Marv · 10-06-2005, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportswidow05

Before I go changing anything on my laptop, can someone tell me if the above link is a hoax or not? If it is for real, I think I will be changing to Firefox real soon.

Go to anonymizer.com and click on their privacy test. You'll probably be surprised.

Anonymizer

Pragma · 10-06-2005, 03:57 PM

A lot of the stuff on Anonymizer's privacy test is pretty common sense though - unless you're willing to go absolutely bat-shit paranoid about your internet habits, you honestly don't care if a webserver knows your real IP address. From your IP address, they can do a reverse DNS lookup and/or a whois lookup to find out more information - such as the Geotrack field.

Browser info - again, your browser tells the webserver what it is so that the webserver can run any scripts necessary to make the webpage display nicely on your computer. Clipboard, that was shown above - that's an IE security issue that's fairly easy to fix.

Sample cookie. Well, do you want TFP to remember your username/password? Yea? Then you enable cookies. Some browsers let you specify exactly what websites you want to allow cookies from, or if you want to allow third-party cookies (i.e.: if you're on TFP, do you want to allow crazypornaddicts.com to set a cookie). Not too hard to tweak to fix, and also it's very easy to click a button and erase the cookies stored on your computer. No need to buy software for that.

Computer name - I'm not entirely sure how they're pulling that one off, but my guess would be that they try to run a netbios scan against your IP address and if port 139 is open, they can pull your computer name. If you're running a firewall though, you'll have that blocked (as enabling netbios over the internet is dangerous and/or ignorant).

Referer page - that can be a security issue, if you come from https://mybank.com/balance.php?credi...41234&pin=0987 - so I'd recommend that if you're going to do something online that you have to log in securely for (such as webmail, bank account info, purchases), you close that window when you're done, that way the referer info can't give anything away.

Sites visited - depends on the browser, but there's probably a way to disable it. I honestly don't know too much about this one

I realize this post was probably overkill, but I figured I'd follow up on the privacy test thing before people got scared and believed the snake oil that they needed to buy half a dozen different products to keep themselves safe online. A little critical thinking and exploring advanced options goes a long way

MikeSty · 10-06-2005, 04:21 PM

Who copies uber important data to the clipboard anyway? Usually it's just some porn URL.... yay...

Then again, use FireFox.

Temporary_User · 10-06-2005, 04:44 PM

I always hate it when Im browsing porn, and it says meet singles in "my city" right now. How can I stop this? i know that anoyomizer thing says to, but there has to be something free?
i use firefox.

zfleebin · 10-06-2005, 05:23 PM

Temporary_User: There are probably other methods but I find that proxies throw these off. It seems as if all they are doing is tracing your ip.

Temporary_User · 10-06-2005, 08:43 PM

cool. so what do I do?

micah67 · 10-07-2005, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

I always hate it when Im browsing porn, and it says meet singles in "my city" right now. How can I stop this? i know that anoyomizer thing says to, but there has to be something free?
i use firefox.

I like that feature. Who knew there were so many hot chicks living right next door?

souzafone · 10-09-2005, 04:35 AM

The Proxomitron--http://www.jd5000.net/

10-06-2005, 10:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Meditrina Junkie Location: LI,NY	Is this for real? http://www.worldstart.com/clipboardtest/ Before I go changing anything on my laptop, can someone tell me if the above link is a hoax or not? If it is for real, I think I will be changing to Firefox real soon. __________________ "Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles." ~Alex Karras

10-06-2005, 10:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	I don't know, but when i followed their instructions, my CounterSpy popped up a box that said that the last action had lowered my security level to below minimum. Now I trust CounterSpy more than I trust some website, so I don't think I will do as they say! __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

10-06-2005, 10:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	Yes it is for real. Don't copy sensitive information to the clipboard. __________________

10-06-2005, 11:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	Didn't work in Firefox. If you look at the page, though.. you can see exactly what they were doing: Code: var content = clipboardData.getData("Text"); if (content!=null) { document.write(...) Realistically, though, I think the risk is pretty low. So they've got your credit card number or something. Unless you give them enough information (like your WHOLE credit information, address, etc..) they just have a bunch of junk numbers or characters from everyone who connects to the website. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel Last edited by Jinn; 10-06-2005 at 11:30 AM..

10-06-2005, 03:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	A lot of the stuff on Anonymizer's privacy test is pretty common sense though - unless you're willing to go absolutely bat-shit paranoid about your internet habits, you honestly don't care if a webserver knows your real IP address. From your IP address, they can do a reverse DNS lookup and/or a whois lookup to find out more information - such as the Geotrack field. Browser info - again, your browser tells the webserver what it is so that the webserver can run any scripts necessary to make the webpage display nicely on your computer. Clipboard, that was shown above - that's an IE security issue that's fairly easy to fix. Sample cookie. Well, do you want TFP to remember your username/password? Yea? Then you enable cookies. Some browsers let you specify exactly what websites you want to allow cookies from, or if you want to allow third-party cookies (i.e.: if you're on TFP, do you want to allow crazypornaddicts.com to set a cookie). Not too hard to tweak to fix, and also it's very easy to click a button and erase the cookies stored on your computer. No need to buy software for that. Computer name - I'm not entirely sure how they're pulling that one off, but my guess would be that they try to run a netbios scan against your IP address and if port 139 is open, they can pull your computer name. If you're running a firewall though, you'll have that blocked (as enabling netbios over the internet is dangerous and/or ignorant). Referer page - that can be a security issue, if you come from https://mybank.com/balance.php?credi...41234&pin=0987 - so I'd recommend that if you're going to do something online that you have to log in securely for (such as webmail, bank account info, purchases), you close that window when you're done, that way the referer info can't give anything away. Sites visited - depends on the browser, but there's probably a way to disable it. I honestly don't know too much about this one I realize this post was probably overkill, but I figured I'd follow up on the privacy test thing before people got scared and believed the snake oil that they needed to buy half a dozen different products to keep themselves safe online. A little critical thinking and exploring advanced options goes a long way __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

10-06-2005, 04:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
MikeSty The Computer Kid :D Location: 127.0.0.1	Who copies uber important data to the clipboard anyway? Usually it's just some porn URL.... yay... Then again, use FireFox.

10-06-2005, 04:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Temporary_User Psycho	I always hate it when Im browsing porn, and it says meet singles in "my city" right now. How can I stop this? i know that anoyomizer thing says to, but there has to be something free? i use firefox.

10-06-2005, 05:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Temporary_User: There are probably other methods but I find that proxies throw these off. It seems as if all they are doing is tracing your ip.

10-06-2005, 08:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Temporary_User Psycho	cool. so what do I do?

10-09-2005, 04:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
souzafone Insane	The Proxomitron--http://www.jd5000.net/