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Old 07-31-2003, 02:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Handgun calibres

The idea is to post the calibre of your dream handgun (you know, the one you would have if this were a perfect world). And then post a calibre of the handgun you like to use best, or might realistically use in the future.

Dream gun - .50AE (yeah, kind of trite)

Realistic - .45 although I'm not sure which gun I'd like to fire these off with.

** Please remember that this is for handgun calibres only, thanksssss
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Old 07-31-2003, 03:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting thread topic. I have a .22 rifle that I really like a lot. It's light, has almost no recoil or report, and makes teaching gun safety to my kids alot easier since it eliminates the "big noise fear factor". Then they throw clay birds for me as I shoot my 12 gauge. What a fun day.
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Old 07-31-2003, 03:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off
hehe... clean off... oh yah...

shrug ive shot .22 rifles a bunch... i like em... good for target practice... uve done a little deer hunting with my grampas rifle... its a "thirty ot six"... i dunno where the . goes in that... and ive shot my uncles handgun... he said it was a ".39 special" i dont know what makes a special different from a regular but thats what he said...
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Old 07-31-2003, 04:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-31-2003, 05:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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But seriously, I am very happy with my 9mm.
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Old 07-31-2003, 07:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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a .38 sounds good to me.
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I love the .45 auto. I've fired a .357 Colt Python, whoa those suckers have a kick. Fired the 9 mm, didnt like that too much. Havent fired a .40 auto or the .357 sig but would very much like to.
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would like a nice, small revolver in .32 h&r magnum.

For anything else I want to stick with .40
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 07-31-2003, 11:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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quote:
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this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off
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hehe... clean off... oh yah...

shrug ive shot .22 rifles a bunch... i like em... good for target practice... uve done a little deer hunting with my grampas rifle... its a "thirty ot six"... i dunno where the . goes in that... and ive shot my uncles handgun... he said it was a ".39 special" i dont know what makes a special different from a regular but thats what he said...
where the hell did you quote that from?

Very few guns can blow your hand clean off from recoil. and 0% of them are manufactured hand guns

.39 calibur is a nice blend of power, and accruacy.
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Old 08-01-2003, 03:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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No brainer

.454 Casell, the worlds best varmit hand gun.
But for more than one gopher I'd prefer the metal storm system:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS...orm/index.html

See it in action:

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Old 08-01-2003, 06:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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My wife carries a .40 in compact sig. , I carry a 9mm bretta, you should carry the largest cal. you can shoot safely. I can do head shots (triple tap) with my 9 at 25 yards. My wife can do head shots (double tap) with her .40 at 20 yards. But you put the .40 in my hands and i can not shoot well unless its within 15 yards.

But if i were to dream, i would carry 2 .44 mag Desert eagle nickle plated power houses, using PMC 240gr rounds. With my .44 rifle i have shot cracked the engine block of an old truck.
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Old 08-01-2003, 11:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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its a "thirty ot six"... i dunno where the . goes in that
It's the .30 caliber round developed in 1906, thus, 30/06 or "thirty ought six" Same for the 30/30.
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Old 08-01-2003, 11:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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where the hell did you quote that from?
You're joking right? the movie Dirty Harry!!!

And yeah it's a bunch of bullshit.
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Old 08-01-2003, 12:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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That metalstorm stuff

Is fascinating, especiallt the ability to package multiple round types into one barrel.
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Old 08-01-2003, 03:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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"It's the .30 caliber round developed in 1906, thus, 30/06 or "thirty ought six" Same for the 30/30"

.30-30 refers to the caliber of the bullet and then the grains of black powder behind it. Quite a number of calibers were given such nomenclature. .45-70, .30-40 Krag, .45-90, .30-30, etc. .30-06 does refer, however, to the caliber and the year it was developed. It is one heckuva good round for taking pretty much every type of large game in North America.

My dream caliber handgun is easy to pick - .357 Magnum. Great caliber, all around useful, easy to shoot. I'd put it through one of the sweet K-frames put out by the S&W Performance Center. Currently, I out it downrange with my M-686
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Old 08-01-2003, 03:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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.22 Handguns are fun. .50 cal.....Honestly, Ill bet they are cool and all, but why do you really need one? Ill bet you cant rip off more then 10-20 rounds in one sitting.

Personaly, the .45 long colt is what I would love to have.
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Old 08-01-2003, 05:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm partial to my .45 Springfield Ultra Compact. Handles nice and it makes big holes
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Old 08-01-2003, 10:16 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'd go witt a .50 magnum 440 grains that jus sounds like it could punch a hole with a 6 inch radius through a human head.
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Old 08-02-2003, 01:47 AM   #20 (permalink)
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It's the .30 caliber round developed in 1906, thus, 30/06 or "thirty ought six" Same for the 30/30.
yer right about the 06, but the 30/30 was actually a 30cal in front of 30 grains of blackpowder....yup, it started life as a blackpowder round.


edit, ....oops, didnt see the other post

My favorite? My colt compact of course...of which I have two.

I've never seen a man be able to stand up to a .45 round...

There are numerous cases where a suspect continued to fight after being shot with a 9mm......

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Old 08-02-2003, 01:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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"Ideal" caliber is such a subjective thing, especially since accuracy counts for more than bullet energy.

That being said, I want a SIG229 in .40 S&W for a carry gun at some point. Eventually I do want a Kimber .45 or possibly a Colt Commander 1911.
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Old 08-02-2003, 03:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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My dream caliber would have to be .44mag.. but they arent too practical. Realistically I like the 9mm or the .40. Glock 26/27 all the way.
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Old 08-02-2003, 10:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Never heard of 39 caliber? 38 yes...38 special, is essentially exactly the same size as a 357 magnum round (not as heavy of a projectile, i think), and is an ecomical way to use such a weapon at the range.

I agree with the 'highest caliber you can effectively employ' advice. I am trained with a nine and extremely effective. Through a variety of weapons. MP-5, Berretta, Glock, Sigma. 15 yard trips on a pie plate. I am also such with a few .45 ACP weapons. Of note is an m1911 built on the Aberdeen Proving grounds in Maryland. Man do those dawgs make beautiful machines.

That being said, I doubt I would ever opt for anything other then a 9mm luger or .45ACP.

Oh and must concur on Kimber's rendition of the 1911. Very nice job indeed.

OK..OK...that pie plate thing is only most of the time. I often jerk three or four per 17 with my sigma.
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:05 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Handgun calibres

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The idea is to post the calibre of your dream handgun (you know, the one you would have if this were a perfect world). And then post a calibre of the handgun you like to use best, or might realistically use in the future.

Dream gun - .50AE (yeah, kind of trite)

Realistic - .45 although I'm not sure which gun I'd like to fire these off with.

** Please remember that this is for handgun calibres only, thanksssss

Remember ... the bigger the caliber the more BUMP you will perceive . Shooting a 50AE Hand Cannon is not all the fun it's cracked up to be ... #1 the expense even with hand-loads . The BUMP even with shooting gloves will make your hands numb and twitching after 20 or so rounds . So a 45 is an excellent choice for an afternoon of shooting .
My favorite cal is the .38 . I can shoot competition with any other caliber all day at 25 to 50 yards without a mere flinch from wad cutters . Also they put perfect holes in the 10X ... to me thats gun control .
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:01 PM   #25 (permalink)
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.22 Handguns are fun. .50 cal.....Honestly, Ill bet they are cool and all, but why do you really need one? Ill bet you cant rip off more then 10-20 rounds in one sitting.

Personaly, the .45 long colt is what I would love to have.

I'd suggest Umberti's replica 1875 Remington "Outlaw", chambered for .45 Long Colt.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:21 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Look at my avatar. The .357 has been my fave for a loooong time.
My Para in .38 super gained the upper hand for a while, but these days
it only comes out to play when I'm bangin' away at an IPSC match.
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:08 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I don't understand the question completely.

As far as I know there aren't any restricted handgun calibers. So anything is obtainable - the only limiting factor is the $$$ you'd have to shell out for it.

It took me years but I've been collecting all my most desired handguns over the past several years. In California you never know when they'll become restricted so I'm getting them while I can.

My latest purchases:

HK P7M8 - being discontinued by HK. They're making only 500 more - each one numbered. I just purchased #357 of 500


S&W M29-10 with 6.5" barrel - the .44 magnum I always wanted. Unfortunately it's the "reissued" version with the lock ... If I had my choice I'd get an early one from the 70s when the blueing was much better. Still, the 6.5" barrel seems about perfectly proportioned with the frame. And it came with the mahogany case, too.



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Well, on second thought here are some guns I want but can't get for various reasons ...

An old artillery Luger - this carbine version would be nice. But I don't have $17,000 to spare for one. You bet if I had one I'd shoot it, too!




I'd like an ar15 "pistol" but California doesn't allow them:


Or one of several selective fire pistols like:


Glock 18


CZ 75 automatic

Or other class 3 weapons:

The lever action Bushwhacker - has 5 rounds of .457 magnum or .50 Alaskan! Shown here next to a .44 for size comparison.
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:36 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I would have to say that it would be a choice of 2 guns. I carry a colt defender .45. I personally like the slow and heavy approach to my bullets. I used to carry a S&W Highway patrollman. It is a .357 caliber. I also don't mind carrying the nice little compact charter arms .38 that my granpa has, it only has five shots, but you cant get anymore reliable than a revolver. I have shot numerous 9mms and for personal protection, I just don't feel comfortable carrying one around. There is something about the .357 or the.45 that have more energy and have more knock down power. Thats just my personal prefernce though.
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woohog1, for personal defense I carry nothing smaller than a .40S&W - usually a .45 (a commander-sized s&w 1911 PD or HK USP-C). I've seen the aftermath of many handgun wounds and there is a huge difference between what a .45 or .357 does and, say, a 9mm.
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Re .38s and 9mm...not a great difference, actually in their inability to stop anyone, unless you are fortunate enough to hit a vital organ ( a round placed exactly 'twixt the frown lines between the eyebrows...or plumb-smack-dab in the heart...or are lucky enough shatter a thigh bone...right or left). Other than that, you are sadly, as Dirty Harry so delicatelyputs it "...shit out of luck!"
You will forgive the crudity above, but both rounds are useless! A Law Enforcement photo of a mutt who absorbed thirty-one (31) 9 mm rounds before turning up his toes is quite vivid in my mind, as is the reality of how the US military and Law enforcement have bought the small caliber hype hook,line and sinker, to the detriment of both organizations.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:55 AM   #31 (permalink)
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An addendum....I was first issued an M-1 Garand some fifty-eight years ago. It was a joy and a comfort to me in Korea (twice) and again,
in Vietnam. In Vietnam, I had the autonomy and the option to choose what weapon I would carry. I MR'd an M-1 Garand from an RVN unit.

I have an M1 Garand today...and it is still a joy and a comfort to me...as are two .45 Auto's and a .45 Long Colt.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:17 AM   #32 (permalink)
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.500 S&W Magnum - "It shoots through schools!"
But seriously, I am very happy with my 9mm.

Your comment scares me....lol
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I currently compete using an early Trooper MkIII in .357. Happy with the accuracy, win most comps.... Also have a 1943, .303 SMLE, mainly because of its military history.
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Re .38s and 9mm...not a great difference, actually in their inability to stop anyone, unless you are fortunate enough to hit a vital organ ( a round placed exactly 'twixt the frown lines between the eyebrows...or plumb-smack-dab in the heart...or are lucky enough shatter a thigh bone...right or left). Other than that, you are sadly, as Dirty Harry so delicatelyputs it "...shit out of luck!"
You will forgive the crudity above, but both rounds are useless! A Law Enforcement photo of a mutt who absorbed thirty-one (31) 9 mm rounds before turning up his toes is quite vivid in my mind, as is the reality of how the US military and Law enforcement have bought the small caliber hype hook,line and sinker, to the detriment of both organizations.
Modern ammunition in 9mm does just fine stopping the bad guys. Where the military loses out is that they have to use ball ammo, which sucks no matter how big a pipe you dump it out of.
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Old 05-25-2007, 06:17 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I own a Sig P220 .45, and as far as I know it's the best gun for me, so it looks like I already own my dream gun
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Old 06-09-2007, 07:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The .357 Sig round is just about perfect for a defensive handgun round from a physical / ballastic standpoint. Decent bullet size, weight, energy, and the ability to carry a large capacity in a small space. An excellent compromise between the faster 9mm and the heavier .45, beating out the .40 S&W in most areas.

This round is not popular with gun or ammo manufacturers and will most likely be like the .45 GAP: forgotten. Cute, useful, and never taken seriously.
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:38 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Realisticly .45 just because it has enough stopping powero to stop pretty much anyone but is small enough to keep under control even if you were half asleep.

But i would rather have a nice big blunderbuss. A 3/4 inch barrel would do just fine. I dunno if that would be rated in a caliber though. kinda like a 10 or 12 gauge shotgun
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