We were in the midst if a lively discussion around bagels in the old forum - and I wanted to point out something to Charlatan because he was actually making his own in Singapore (how's that going anyways Charl?). Some of the discussion revolved around the favourite style of bagels, of which there seemed to be 3 or for main groups: 1 ) Store bought mass produced and breadlike (Wonder, Dempsters etc) 2) Regular coffee or restaurant style bagels. Around here they are called 'Toronto Style' but proliferate geographically and tend to be thick, soft and doughy on the inside with a soft crust: 3) New York City style - not too different from the Toronto style in that it is thick with a soft crust, but seems to be a bit denser on the inside (do I have it right NYC-er's out there?). Coatings on these can be as covered as the TO bagel, or even moreso: 4) The Montreal Style bagel: thinner and denser on the inside than the other styles, a harder (smooth) crust that has just a slightly sweet flavour on account of the dough being boiled in honey water prior to baking in a wood brick oven: What I wanted to perpetuate here in this thread in the new forum is a healthy dialogue on the relative merits and experiences with bagels. After years of not distinguishing and being satisfied with style #1 or 2, as long as it had sesame seeds on it, I was happy. But I am a convert to the Montreal style. Mostly because I found that these are enjoyable ontheir own. They don't need to be toasted or filled with cream cheese or whatever. If they come with sesame seeds, even better. It's just that they are damn hard to find. Only a couple of places here (in Toronto) can turn out something that comes close to the real thing. I found a place in Philadelphia that does a great job too: http://johnecclestone.com/2011/05/philadelphia-coffee-and-bagel-spot…or-new-addiction/ But recently (and Charlaton - you'll be surprised to see) the local grocery started to carry MTL style. These are available at Loblaws: So -- have at it TFPers, what's your bagel poison? What do you like on it? Where do you buy them?