Bombs went off in Boston

So he was on the scene or he just came walking up the street? I'm confused.

 

This had to be before 4:30 am because that's when I was watching it. And it was a loop so it had been filmed before that.

 

Right. I meant Friday, not Thursday. But I got up yesterday morning at 4:30 and had to be watching it by 4:45

 

Dealing with high winds and snow if you go outside is a little bit different than staring down the barrels of a SWAT team's guns. Or in the unfortunate case of the elderly man, being cuffed, on the ground, and undressed by four robots who didn't even have the courtesy to buy him dinner first.

I'm laughing with him as much as I'm laughing at him because I've done pretty much the exact same thing (in places I was allowed to be, not trespassing) a few times.

 

hysteria makes stupid people into cruel and stupid people.

 

well not quite. the younger brothers name dzhokhar is he equivelant of the arabic name Johar or Jawhar, which means 'jewel'. The older brother is named after the muslim 14th century central asian conqueror popularly known as Tamerlane or Tamer the Lame

 

Who's "Jahar?"

And it wasn't a picture, it was on a surveillance tape taken from Lord and Taylor. The public hasn't seen it. The public hasn't seen any evidence that proves these two were the bombers. So how can you be so sure?

Wouldn't mind knowing that as well, MM.

 

Boston Marathon suspect may never be able to be questioned, mayor says | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

I read this yesterday and found myself wondering about the reasoning and motivation behind revealing this information to the public - in this way. Surely it would have been sufficient to simply say that his injuries prevented interrogation now. I'm at a loss to understand why they feel the need to set the public up for the possibility that Tsarnaev may never be able to be questioned without explaining why.

But that's just me wondering about a lot of this right now.





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Perfect spelling.

Don't see that much in America.

 

and the Bostonian response to the people of Syria

 

While I certainly advocate not rushing to judgement, I think it's a bit odd for anyone to not believe these kids are the ones responsible. I don't care what religion they practice, where they're from or what they look like, it all boils down to the footage and the ensuing carnage. I just can't wrap my head around any sort of conspiracy theory on this. I mean, really - they just happened to throw pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs and shoot at police and the older brother wears a suicide vest after the public was shown the pictures. That isn't a coincidence. Sorry.

Also, as a parent I understand how a person will not be able to see certain things about their children, but the father in this case irks me. I get it. The war with Russia has caused deep rooted resentment and an unwillingness to move beyond the fight but he should really see that perhaps his kids aren't the angels he believed. Calling cops cowards is one thing but if a person is walking towards me and engaging in a fire fight and has a vest on and has already thrown bombs at me, I'm gonna be shooting to kill as well. :shrug:

I'm actually far more interested in how the administration is going to handle this with Russia. Russia has dirty hands (much as we do) but considering the tragedies they've suffered from the hands of the Chechnyans, I'd say they're well within their rights to want any info we can gather.

 

A couple of notes about Chechnya that I think need to be mentioned:

1) If you think that the war there is a recent thing, it's not. The Russians have been fighting there for so long that Tolstoy fought there before he started writing (and later on used his experience there in both War & Peace and one of his greatest short stories "Hadji Murat".)
2) During the Russian Civil War, the Chechens actively fought against both the Reds and the Whites.
3) During WWII, the Chechens revolted against the Soviets and suffered mass deportations under Stalin to Kazakhstan. Khrushchev allowed them to move back.

That said, while the Tsarnaev brothers never set foot in Chechnya. They were both born in Dagestan, which is a neighboring region. At the moment it looks like the older brother, Tamarland, may have become a radicalized Muslim in the last couple of years, but that doesn't explain the younger brother.

Glory's Sun, I think that the father's remarks came before the details of the firefight came out. But maybe I'm wrong on that score.