Coronavirus

Coronavirus Update (Live): COVID-19 Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

This is a good summary to start a thread on this global issue.
It is as real-time as I've seen
Check it periodically, it updates often.

And has factual records of most things globally, since the beginning
Records go back in time as you scroll down

It's got charts, definitions, descriptions, etc...
Seems to all be medically and scientifically accurate.

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It’s been going on since the beginning of the year.

This has been a great concern to me since then
And as some of you may know from my posts on FB I’ve been bringing attention to it.
(whether some wanted to be aware or not)

There’s going to be great international impact
Suffering and unfortunately really bad reactions.
Including by the governments affected and who aren’t prepared...

I have no agenda other than info and the safety of others.
Although I will make mention of the bad acting of ANY government
(warning - with sarcasm included...deal with it)

Also I have NO bias at all towards ANY people, country or culture.
Any opinion is to the safety of others.
We expect everyone posting to respect this.

There’s going to be some politics, but this is only a symptom of the overall epidemic...
and you’re welcome to express your opinion
* However this wasn’t put in politics because it it affects everything and everyone
So it a general discussion

This is happening fast, so there may be lots of posts about anything...keep up, this may change the world.

I hope we all get through this healthy in the end.
And with as little impact to our lives
This is one of those “interesting” times in history.
As in the ancient curse, “May you live in interesting times”
Because those were the ones hell to live through.
Let’s hope we can keep the hell down.
I wish the best for our world.

Let’s keep the panic down
And for goodness sake, wash your hands.
Often

 

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FYI, I have connections with the government and medical community...all my own sources are real, factual and emphasis on good science.
I will note any opinion and attempt to minimize any fake news...real fake or tabloid, not politics “fake”

My background is in IT, including Cybersecurity
But I also have knowledge and literal experience in physics, genetics, medicine, chemistry and the underworkings of the US Federal government.
(from my past work with them...DOD, Treasury, DHS, FEMA, etc and includes secured areas including the White House/OMB....all info is public and not secret or even confidential)

So I’m not speaking out my ass (...although no promises of not making an ass of myself )

This includes some knowledge of real repression.
It won’t be “conspiracy theory” but the potential of or real circumstance of true corruption during this crisis.

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Coronavirus fears empty store shelves of toilet paper, bottled water, masks as shoppers stock up

Here we go...get ready for a ride...

 

We Don’t Really Know How Many People Have Coronavirus

I've been saying this for some time...

Don't expect the government, officials, scientists or media to give all information, correct or otherwise.
Some they don't know yet...it's all too fast and chaotic
Some is by neglect or ignorance
Some is by intent...
There may be quite a few governments (or groups or even individuals) who opt to repress or not report (for MANY reasons)

For example, to minimize the panic, stabilize money markets, keep control
Or perhaps for political or selfish reasons...
Like worry about the US elections. (and that's just one country)

And scientists & doctors are human too...fallible.

We won't likely know the real deal and numbers...until afterwards.

 

I've still got quite a few from my ex and her illness...and paint projects
It's gloves that may be more important.

Me, I'm just using my elbows and coat tails.
And grabbing carts in the front not by the handles
But I do this anyway
It helps...especially in the big city

 

Trump seeks to quell fear as first U.S. coronavirus death is reported

It's not the deaths themselves...it's the panic they causes.
There's going to be tons more illnesses with just breathing issues that's the real impact.
Not to dismiss the dead at all, it's just that are larger factors.

And the cascading affects from this...
Markets, food, resources, people acting out or being weird.
Mob mentalities.

I'd say look at Italy for your closest model how the US will react and behave, IMHO.
(large, chaotic, dynamic, corrupt govt, egotistical leaders, random resources, religious, strong willed people who expect freedom and do what they want, porous borders and an unwillingness to not lock down tight including military use)

 

How does the coronavirus compare with the flu? — The New York Times

FYI

BTW, all the information and tests on this Coronavirus is NEW

There’s a lot they don’t know...are speculating on
And it changes often
Medical personnel don’t know how to treat it or recognize it good.

Whereas, Influenza...is well known
And they have practice on
And there’s multiple antivax...and standard protocols known by med staff.

Also, it’s not just fast, the incubation period idling

That’s why it’s best to err on the side of caution
Including exported foods (especially raw).
Yes, it’s potentially that Virulent.

Hopefully, it doesn’t mutate or embed itself into walls and non-organic materials.

This is an aggressive one...

 

@Herculite - I agree with ya fully.

I guess I’m passionate about this one
As opposed to the others, I saw this coming
Something different about it
Growing way too fast.
It’s the equivalent of a tsunami

The others were ponderous and isolated
Gave us time to react
This time it’s a perfect storm (including idiots in charge)

I guess I’m trying to yell to others to get back from the beach quick...find shelter on high ground

That’s all ya can do when the dog decides to scratch the fleas.
Some fleas get away, some get scratched off.

And you’re right, the media has turned basically into British tabloids, 24/7

But it’s what we got...for now
Certainly not going to get better with the web (pun intended)

I’ve got my floaties on...yelling at others to get the fuck out of the water from the penthouse balcony.

Even if we likely survive, the damage will likely be significant and may change things.
C’est la vie...

 

Italy Shows Just How Crazy Coronavirus Panic Can Get

Remember what I said about Italy being a close model for the US near future...
And it's just starting there...China went thru 2 months and LOCKED it down to get there.
Nuff said

Oh yeah, don't panic
BE NICE

 

supposedly it landed in NYC

https://nypost.com/2020/03/01/first...62-JI0rJQabUYGQHmECMHsnH53lV3r6v_yI1GQj8af-pI


The first case of coronavirus in New York City was confirmed on Sunday to be a woman in her late 30s who recently traveled to Iran, a state official said.

Governor Cuomo released a statement on Sunday night announcing the first case in the state. A source told The Post that the woman lives in Manhattan.

“The patient, a woman in her late thirties, contracted the virus while traveling abroad in Iran, and is currently isolated in her home,” Cuomo said in the statement.

Despite the state’s first case of the deadly virus, Cuomo insisted, “There is no cause for surprise — this was expected.”

“As I said from the beginning, it was a matter of when, not if there would be a positive case of novel coronavirus in New York.”

As of late Sunday, there were 76 confirmed cases of coronavirus, known as COVID-19, across the US.

 

I'll respectfully disagree with you to that context and extent.
Doing nothing is a bad approach too...there's a balance. (as my link in the Trump thread shows...tried it in 1918, doesn't work)

It's not even the health aspect that will be the only impact
This will be the aftershock

The Coronavirus Has Put the World’s Economy in Survival Mode

 

I don't either.
Isn't that what we pay experts and leaders to do???

I think maybe when it blows up in regions, cancel schools and large gatherings. (why flame the fire)
Support the hospitals and urgent cares..doctors like crazy.
As well as police and military who'll be vulnerable to it and trying to prevent stupidity.

Encourage and orient restaurant workers BEFORE it gets there (they'll be both vulnerable and potential super spreaders)
We're going to have to setup a fund for restaurants and impacted business and encourage forgiveness or delay of debt.

Think of the start of the Great Recession...
And that's not even if it's a catalyst into an actual one.

We'll see an increase of the national debt, to say the least.

And that's just the start...

You'll also likely see the House become WAY more activist and even powerful
They're the keeper of the keys to the purse. (giving cash, making laws, getting leverage)

It's going to get weird, if we see it increasing as we are already...