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Coronavirus

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by rogue49, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Mapping the Covid-19 Outbreak Globally

    FYI
    This has some decent stats and perspective.

    China is still lying its pants off...have been since the beginning. So I discount their figures. (god knows what's really going on there...but they can lock themselves down like crazy)
    But others which are more transparent are useful.

    The challenge for the US is that it's such a huge country...spread out so it will take the virus a while to get around.
    Russia is big too but not as populated, Brazil has more people on the coast than inland. (all of them have skewed the totals, to be lower)

    I look at Spain, Italy, etc for good figures...they tend to transparent and on top of things.
     
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  2. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    A little info....

    My wife had her annual mammogram yesterday, outpatient at Memorial Hermann Hospital Southeast (MH is a large healthcare organization, it operates numerous hospitals and clinics in & around Houston). We were met at the door, and they gave us disposable medical masks (we were wearing homemade cloth masks), and we were asked the basic Covid-19 exposure /risk questions. We were then given a squirt of handsanitizer, and had our temps taken. The seating in the waiting area was arranged for social distancing.

    Two odd things: A sign recommended avoiding/minimizing contact with common surfaces, but they had magazines in the holders (not a good idea IMO). And there was no hand sanitizer in the waiting area; the wall mounted dispensers so common in hospitals had been removed. I'm guessing even hospitals are rationing hand sanitizer to the public.



    On the way home we stopped by the nice Kroger grocery store (not the lame one near our house) while we were in the area. Two guys (possibly not Kroger employees) were loading various bread products on the shelves, one guy had his mask tucked in under his chin, the other one didn't have a mask at all. Noteworthy: Our mandatory mask order went into effect the same day, 06-22-20. The maskless guy was working hard, and breathing all over the trays he was carrying. I did something I rarely do, I found two managers and complained. I don't know just how seriously they took me, but they did go speak to the delivery guys, and both of them left the area. They left a rolling rack nearly full of full trays. I didn't walk back to that part of the store later to see if they had returned.

    Businesses need to take mask wearing seriously. It's not the end-all solution, far from it, but every reduction helps.
     
  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    I just created my first hashtag
    #COVID45

    Since Mr T doesn’t know what the 19 stands for...

     
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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    Nevermind...not quick enough
    Did some research

    Still a good one.
     
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  5. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted Donor

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    I'm not sure where the China numbers should be, but I will say that my friend was over there in January and got locked down. When small farmers were told by the government to block the back roads and they did, I could see them eliminating the virus by stopping any new people from coming into contact with it.
     
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  6. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    Oh, they were ruthless about it.
    Once the high command found out.
    The local politicians tried to hide it.

    But most post-industrial nations couldn’t do it so hard.
    They wouldn’t think in those terms.

    But what they did do was LOCK it down “or else...”
    Then our satellites caught them burning tons of stuff
    (we think it was dead...but they won’t admit it)
    My govt connections say yeah, that’s what really happened

    Then they just gave out arbitrary numbers
    And “adjusted” when needed to keep the lie up.

    They’re still doing it...just not as bad because people are watching now...unlike when it first started.

    We’re going to be finding out shit for years after this.
     
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  7. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect Donor

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    saw that florida and texas basiclly shut the bars and night clubs down.

    my best friend is scheduled to go on vac first week in july to florida. they are going to daytona. hes hell bent on taking a vacation, we have had many disagreements on it over the last few weeks. its him (49), his wife (48), his daughter (20) his other daughter (15), his mother in law (65ish?) his father in law (68ish?) his nephew (25 or so) and his nephews girlfriend (25 or so). that is their age in ( ). i see they keep closing the beaches in south florida. its just beyond me. but its his choice and he knows how i feel. and he knows i would not be going.

    i dont understand people. do they not realize how serious this is?
     
  8. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    New York City
    mostly because they don't know anyone who got sick or who died.
     
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  9. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect Donor

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    YOU ARE CORRECT
     
  10. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    Sadly they will know soon enough.
     
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  11. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect Donor

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    I know and i hate it
     
  12. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted Donor

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    I wish the experts would come out and say what they are finding out about large groups outdoors. There are plenty of examples now of beachgoers, pool parties, and protests. I want them to say that the risk is very, very small if you stay away from other people by a few feet when at the beach during the daytime. It is the bathroom situation that they need to worry about the most. Going inside hotels is a little risky too.

    New study finds few cases of outdoor transmission of coronavirus in China

    What We Know About Your Chances of Catching the Virus Outdoors
     
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  13. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    The data supports that the protestors didn't cause any spikes. Most of the protestors wore masks too.
     
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  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    Yes, the key factors for the bigger risk
    are being in an enclosed area
    With a volume of people
    Over a good length of time

    Bars - bad
    Protests with people spread out...not bad

    Indoors restaurants or parties - bad
    Picnics or Beaches with people spread out...not bad

    Elevators - not good (the time is brief though)
    Escalators going from outside...not bad.

    There’s a pattern for most transmissions
    Good time for hiking and biking
     
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  15. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted Donor

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    And three months into this, the leaders should be informing people what is safe to do and where the risky spots are based on what data they are seeing.
     
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  16. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    Our dear leader isn't looking at any data.
    It doesn't fit his narrative.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 28, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 28, 2020 ---
    I'm pretty conservative when it comes to my own health and my family's health.
    We are doing a lot of hiking and biking.
    And if we lived near a beach I would not hesitate to go, so long as it wasn't packed shoulder to shoulder with people.
    (Even pre-Covid I wouldn't go if it was like that.....I dont like being around that many people!).
     
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  17. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    I'm watching Face The Nation, waiting for part 2 of the Mike Pence interview.

    In part 1 John Dickerson did a good job of attempting to make Pence actually answer his questions regarding how the Trump administration has handled the Covid-19 pandemic.

    But Pence is one cool & slick asshole. He kept repeating the same bullshit we've been hearing for five months. No matter how hard Dickerson tried for a direct answer, Pence kept slithering around to the same answers:

    The speed & thoroughness of the Trump administration's response to Covid-19 was unprecedented. Dickerson pointed out the pandemic should not have reached that point, and would not have with proper leadership.

    The individual states should be responsible for what actions the respective state needs to take. That includes finding the balance between reopening and containment. Dickerson pointed out the virus doesn't stop at state boundaries.

    And of course Pence hammered the the Covid-19 "whipping boy," the 18-35 demographic that ignores social distancing. Dickerson pointed out the numbers attributed to the 18-35 crowd correlates to re-opening.

    Pence had no answer for why Trump doesn't issue an order to, or at least strongly suggest, wear masks. He just danced around the issue.
     
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  18. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    How could I overlook the huge suggestion, repeated by Pence, that "we" could have a Covid-19 vaccine by the end of the year? With no real details.

    Which is very conveniently after the 2020 election.

    A suggestion, not a direct promise. The promise will most likely come as the election gets closer.
     
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  19. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted Donor

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    I fully expect that one of the big pharma executives or even his supporters at the FDA will announce that the vaccine works in October. It might be a complete lie, but it won't be popular to challenge that. It might not be available, and nobody will be able to question the results until after Nov 4th, but being able to claim victory over the virus is the only way that he has a chance.
     
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    So far, the best one I’ve seen is the one created by Oxford.

    AstraZeneca is partnering with them

    Both have stated that if it works, they’ll make available internationally “at cost” no profit.

    I they’re already doing human trials...and it’s looking good.
    They just need enough test candidates
    Fortunately/unfortunately, their initial worries they wouldn’t have enough because it was slowing down is now resolved because the virus has increased instead.
    This allows the trials to go through at full speed.

    British pharma major AstraZeneca ahead in global race for Covid-19 vaccine: All you need to know
     
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