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Coronavirus

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by rogue49, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. spindles

    spindles Very Tilted

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Yep. Our federal government paid a social security payment called Jobkeeper to businesses that weren't actually doing anything to keep people 'employed'. They are only now starting to wind this back.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 20, 2021, Original Post Date: Jan 20, 2021 ---
    Most banks in Oz allowed mortgage holders to have a repayment break of up to 6 months. You just needed to ask.
     
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  2. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    I had Moderna dose #2 Thursday morning.
    That's no lightweight shot.
    After #1 I had mild arm soreness, like a flu vaccine.
    I had dose #2 at 0800 Thursday. I worked all day and felt fine.
    I started to feel a little achy at dinnertime.
    By 8 pm I had a headache, neck soreness and general muscle aches.
    By 9 pm I was in bed wrapped up in blankets and blasting the heat in our room trying to get comfortable.
    I still felt like crap Friday but I didn't have a fever so I dragged through work. Everything hurt.

    The good news is, after sleeping 9.5 hours last night, I was as good as new today with no lingering side effects.

    A bunch of us got it Thursday morning, and several people called in sick Friday.

    Maybe this will be helpful for others as they plan when to get vaccinated.
     
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  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    We had our first sit-down meal at a restaurant since maybe February of last year. We had to sit outside on the patio, and our food was served "to go."

    It was still nice to eat out.
     
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  4. boink

    boink Getting Tilted

    Location:
    Seattle
    Hmm, do I ruin my weekend or do I waste two work days and take PTO for it ?
    Team player or lazy bastard.
     
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    I’d go for lazy bastard
    It’s like a sick day...because you’re ill briefly
    And no one wants to moan and groan thru work.

    Plus people are paranoid of anyone that does seem ill these days.

    Believe me, I get shit just from my coughs from my allergy. :rolleyes:
     
  6. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    Given what my work team just experienced, I think employers will need to take side effects into account if they are involved in scheduling and vaccinating their workers.
    You could easily knock out 1/3 to 1/2 of your workforce the day after the second immunization if you do everyone at the same time.
     
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  7. boink

    boink Getting Tilted

    Location:
    Seattle
    Well there's only 3 of us including the owner.
    I'm out in the field welding railing on site with a stone contractor behind me installing concrete pavers, so I need to stay ahead of them or I hold up other ppls work schedules.
    Aches and pains beyond normal wouldn't help anything.

    I want to push off the vax till the one shot option is available..
     
  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Texas is--of course--behind on giving the shots. It's worth noting our Republican governor, whose intelligence level is questionable, followed the Conman the-buck-doesn't-stop-here model for dealing with covid-19.

    Locally you have to jump through hoops, to ensure you are in the right group, to get an appointment. Your confirmation number is supposed to be checked. At one large vaccination site confirmations weren't checked, and people were cutting in line.

    Glitches happen, but still......
     
  9. boink

    boink Getting Tilted

    Location:
    Seattle
    There may be hoops here too. I don't really know.
    Seems to me I remember Pence assuring us all they'll be no medical bills.for covid related illness.
    I'm so isolated I don't feel much concern over it.
    I do see lines in the UW parking lot for vaxing.
     
  10. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    Look for results from the Johnson and Johnson trial some time in the next 10-14 days.
    If successful, and approved, that will be the one shot option. Would probably start arriving in March.
    It would greatly simplify administration.
     
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  11. boink

    boink Getting Tilted

    Location:
    Seattle
    Thanks I will. Hopefully it won't be hard to get this dealt with, I mean paperwork, reservations and whatever.
     
  12. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member Donor

    My wife got Moderna #2 at 7AM yesterday. She felt fine for 6-7 hours, then started feeling tired. Had a lot of aches and joint pain last night, and a mild fever. She was pretty uncomfortable, but was texting with a couple of work mates and they were having similar symptoms. About 5-6AM this morning she started feeling a lot better and the fever is gone. Hopefully that's all, and if so, was uncomfortable for a few hours, but not horrible. We'll see how she feels as the day goes on.
     
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  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
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  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Johnson & Johnson vaccine provides strong shield against severe COVID, but raises concern about variants — Bloomberg

    Well, this may be a game changer...
    Supposedly it’s 100% effective in preventing deaths or hospitalization

    And it’s only one shot...and it only needs normal refrigeration

    Now, it’s not a preventative
    Those are ranging between 70-95% preventing getting the illness (you can still spread it either way)

    BUT if you do get it...AND forces you to go to the hospital or get close to death
    This can help.

    That may normalize thing...make it bearable like the flu.
    Y’know, a prevention antivirus
    Then if it gets bad...something the doc can give.

    The world would smooth out quite a bit.

    However...
    We’ll see. I’m skeptical.
    I want to see as we distribute all these thing in great volumes and over time...what’s the real odds and effectiveness.

    It will still be summer or fall until things hopefully normalize.

    But at least, we can keep more from dying and out of the hospital (which IS expensive)
     
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  15. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    Just to clarify: The JnJ product is a vaccine, not a treatment for active Covid infection.
    It is administered to healthy recipients, not to people who are already sick.
     
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  16. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    It sounds like a good product for the healthy at low risk. And that could make more of the " heavy" vaccines available to the people needing stronger protection.
     
  17. Freetofly

    Freetofly Diving deep into the abyss Donor

    Well the last two weeks have interesting. One department has been self isolating because of 5 positives.
    Now the EU is playing games with the vaccines deliveries, even though the UK pre-ordered before them. What a bunch of wankers.
     
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  18. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!


    Yes! This is a really important new product.
    If we are going to pour resources into increasing vaccine production, this is the one.
    It can be stored in a normal refrigerator and only requires one dose.
    That removes the huge logistical issues with the two current RNA vaccines.

    In a community health center setting it is very difficult to use the RNA vaccines.
    They need extreme cold storage, and come in multi-dose packs that have a short half life once opened.
    Imagine working in a rural health center.....even if you could get the special freezer, what do you do when a patient comes in at 3 pm and wants the vaccine?
    If you don't already have a vial open, do you open one? What if no other patients want the vaccine that afternoon? You waste the rest.
    And then you have to track the person, and their next dose, and get them back 3 or 4 weeks later for that second shot.

    The JnJ shot would be given like influenza vaccine which we routinely do in our office in the fall.
    One shot, done.
     
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  19. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member Donor

    Saturday I am scheduled to get the first dose of the Moderna vaccine. According to my county's distribution plan, my job qualifies me as part of the 1B group.
     
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  20. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member Donor

    Got the first dose this AM. The setup was incredibly efficient. A local church has donated use of their building as a mass vaccine center several days per week. They had the entrance very clearly marked so you knew exactly where to go. There was someone at the door taking temps and pointing you to the first check in spot. When the appointments are confirmed you are sent a unique QR code, which had to be presented at check in. They verified your info, asked what eligible category you fell into, had a few health screening questions, then you were pointed to the next place to go to fill out your final registration. From there they moved you to a line (that was only 4 people deep when I lined up, I was in line less than 60 seconds total) that entered the main auditorium of the church. They had all the pews stacked up against the wall, and just next to them had about 10 cubicles set up. Each cubicle had a health care person confirming who you were and administering the shot. You were given a card and some paperwork, and pointed to the next spot, where they checked you in again to wait 15 mins to make sure you didn't have any reactions. They handed each person a timer set at 15 mins, and they had seats spaced about 8-10' apart from each other for you to sit and wait. While you waited, someone came around with a tablet to set up your second dose appointment. As soon as the 15 mins was up, you were checked out and could leave. The entire process took right at 20 mins for me, from entering to leaving, including the 15 min wait time. They scanned your QR code every step of the way so that tracking was accurate. I was really impressed by how efficient and organized it was. The health dept here was really on top of things. Every step of the way had a volunteer, or volunteers, clearly identified by high res vets, that would answer questions and point you to the next step. It appeared that some were from the health dept and hospital, others from the church the vaccinations were done at.

    The only part that I think could've been better was that there was literally zero requirement to provide proof that I was eligible to be vaccinated already. They simply asked which category I was in, and when I said I worked for someone in essential manufacturing, they accepted it. The email said we may be asked to show gov't ID, work ID, or a paystub for proof of employment, but no one asked for any of that. So, if you wanted to lie and say you were in the essential category being vaccinated, it wouldn't have been difficult. But at the end of the day, I really have to say the entire process was easy and efficient to go through.
     
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