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Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by rogue49, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    3rd conservative radio host who condemned vaccines dies of Covid

    This is just sad.
    One, that they died. It was preventable and unnecessary. (I don't want anyone to die...no "deserving it")
    Two, that they are encouraging others to do something that may harm them...kill them...AND harm others.

    Ignorance is NOT bliss.
    Willful ignorance is cruel and dangerous.

    My first principle - prevent death and harm.
    KISS

    This is not "free speech" - this is yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.

    I don't know if these VIPs will face criminal consequences for their words...BUT get ready for LOTS of lawsuits.
    That can last a LONG time and cost them LOTS of $$$ (why do you think companies cover themselves with legal jargon??? $$$ and reputation - forget ethics :rolleyes:)

    Meanwhile, the damage is done.
    People die or they're hospitalized or just simply getting a REALLY bad illness.

    Case in point...
    Covid Live Updates: U.S. Records a Daily Average of 100,000 Covid Hospitalizations
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 30, 2021, Original Post Date: Aug 30, 2021 ---
    ==============
    Followup...
    THIS is what they need to consider when spouting off on the public airwaves.
    Actually this is what EVERYONE should consider...and IMHO, pretty much "any" public related words. (They have consequences)
    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I have a difficult time sympathizing with
    willful ignorance and contraryism.
    Especially with people who intentionally mislead others.
     
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  3. connyosis

    connyosis Vertical

    Location:
    Nora, Sweden
    I'm sorry but I'm all out of sympathy for vaccine deniers. I don't WANT anyone to die, but do I give two shits that some right wing nutbag that spouts nonsense that harms other people have died? No. Not in the slightest.
    Large number of people are dying every day, partly because these asshats have convinced them that the vaccine is dangerous or some massive government conspiracy and what they really should take is fucking horse dewormer or just pray the virus away.
    Maybe it makes me bad person but IMHO the world is a better place without these people around. Sorry.
     
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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I can't click both Agree and Winner.
     
  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    They just do NOT get it!!!

    Simple rules
    1. Ventilated: outside = good
    2. Number of people: more = bad
    3. Length of stay: longer = bad
    4. Activity: breathe out hard = bad
    5. Masks: They protect OTHERS, you Iffy

    So MANY people are acting like spoiled brats
    Kicking & screaming at any inconvenience or effort
    Coming up with ANY excuse.
    ** includes many leaders

    Just friggin DO it.
    Listen, learn, live it.

    The more you DO, the better it will be.
    And hopefully less time.

    You don't do it...death, harm, $$$ gone.
    Sorry for YOUR inconvenience. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. spindles

    spindles Very Tilted

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Yep, I think mask wearing and social distancing (to some extent) will be the new normal. The idea you can completely remove all restrictions and go back to how it was is farcical.

    edit: got my second AZ jab this week. My 5G coverage is amazing!
     
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Brilliant idea

    Do whatever works...

    By now, just a double-tap would be cathartic, if not effective. :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    In some ways...KISS, good sense, etc.
     
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  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    FYI - good to know...and convenient :)
     
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  10. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    ^
    Get as many people as possible vaccinated
    before concentrating on the booster vaccinations.
    This is new news?
     
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  11. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    I think the importance of this information is that we really don't need boosters yet, not that we should hold off boosting to offer the unvaccinated their shots.
    The vaccines still appear quite effective after 6-8 months for most people. We are doing the right thing waiting before starting mass booster immunizations.
     
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  12. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    In an ideal world, yes, the poor nations and the unvaccinated would be getting these vaccines. However, I want to know what level of vaccination would be required to walk into an Covid ICU unmasked and not get infected. And if that is too difficult a test, then what level would protect me if someone living with me got infected or if I was unmasked in a movie theater with a few sick people? If that requires a third booster shot, then sign me up.

    Part of the problem was the seemingly high efficacy numbers early on. They were hoping for 60-70% and got 90+%. It was too close to the 100% that most people wanted and expect modern medicine to deliver though.
     
  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    One of my nieces died of covid today. She wasn't vaccinated. I don't have many details other than she was in the hospital for over two weeks.

    We weren't close.
     
  14. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    The vaccine you have already received is highly effective at keeping YOU out of the ICU even if you do get an infection from a sick person.
    It's not clear yet (at least to me, and many others) that the booster would substantially improve upon that.
     
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  15. PonyPotato

    PonyPotato Very Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    I'm sorry for the loss and that these issues are hitting so close to home. One of my friends lost a longtime friend to COVID recently, also someone unvaccinated. It makes me fear a lot for my stubborn sister who won't get vaccinated.
     
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  16. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    I’m so sorry for your loss.
    No matter the circumstance, it’s always a hard thing
     
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  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
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  18. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    I'm sorry to hear this.

    I worry about my parents and my sister as they think they know better... but whatever.
     
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  19. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North

    I'm sorry for your loss.
    Even when they aren't close, a loss in the family has ripple effects.
    It also has a way of hitting closer then numbers in the paper.
    Take care of yourself.
     
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  20. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    Sorry to hear Chris. It's sad even if you weren't close, and it's terrible that people are unnecessarily raising their risk of COVID being severe/fatal, for an incredibly long list of reasons. With my wife working for the hospital, I see/hear first hand the strain it's putting on those in the health care system.
     
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