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Food GMO food....whatda' ya think?

Discussion in 'Tilted Food' started by DAKA, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    Is it possible to have true NON GMO? that shit is in the air and water.
    Should probably be a law that the officers of those companies MUST eat it every day....no special food for them and their families...
     
  2. omega

    omega Very Tilted Donor

    I'll eat it every day. I'd rather have gmo food that is cheaper, healthier, and more drought and disease resistant. The science is in, and gmo food is not an issue. But it is popular for fearmongering.
     
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  3. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    I don't know what to think about this stuff...(Don't screw with Mother Nature)
     
  4. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    We've been fooling with Mother Nature. What you think broccoli started out that way? What about carrots?

    Let's just go back to Gregor Mendel and the Punnett squares. Gasp! He even was an Austrian monk!!! Wait religious monk and science?!?!
     
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  5. martian

    martian Server Monkey Staff Member

    Location:
    Mars
    The thing that blew my mind recently was when I learned kale, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, and brussels sprouts are all different cultivars of the same plant. It's been selectively cultivated over millennia to be made into all of these different forms.

    Brassica oleracea - Wikipedia

    Screwing with mother nature is definitely not a new concept.
     
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  6. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    Thanks for the link, @martian . Very interesting.
     
  7. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted Donor

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I think there needs to be a difference between picking the best crops to do selective breeding and plant splicing with what should be called Chemically Dependent Plants (CDP). I came up with that tonight. ;) CDC and CDO have already been taken... The plants that need a certain weed killing chemical or that create their own semi-toxic bacteria. *I have purchased BT before at the plant store to wipe out bag worms growing on bushes and it works, I didn't eat them or feed those to animals though. And they weren't going to cross pollinate with any other plants.

    Now there is a lot of propaganda on both sides when it comes to modern CDPs, and I haven't done the research into them to know enough about it for sure. It is more than just the health of eating them though. You have to weigh the crop loss using other techniques, the costs to grow them, the quality and quantity, the problem with farmers not being able to save seeds for legal reasons, costs to buy new seeds each growing cycle, allowing a foreign corporation to control the seeds used to grow a large percentage of our food (when the merger goes through), the pollution (less insecticides, more weed killer, fertilizer runoff differences)
     
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  8. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted Donor

    The strawberries I bought yesterday smelled amazing and looked beautiful. But, the texture was bizarre and there was no flavor. Driscoll's used to be great.
     
  9. DAKA

    DAKA DOING VERY NICELY, THANK YOU

    So much of the fruit and vegetables these days don't have the flavor or texture/feel that they used to....(or is it my imagination)
    But, I do remember that the tomatoes, corn and potatoes that we grew summers in upstate (Putnam) county was quite a bit more flavorful.
     
  10. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted Donor

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  11. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted Donor

    Having grown up in Florida near the strawberry center of the south and orange grooves, I can totally tell the difference. GMO strawberries are sneaky. I won't drink mass-produced oj either. Only fresh squeezed where I can see the machine. Or ill do without. It all tastes funny.
     
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  12. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member Donor

    It could also be where they're coming from. Any Oregonian knows that what you describe is a consequence of buying "California" berries. They may or may not be from California, as the issue is actually with the cultivar: it has been selectively bred to withstand the rigors of shipping. It's not a GMO issue.

    Very few agricultural products are actually genetically modified. Most GMOs are limited to soybeans, corn for cattle, canola/rapeseed, and sugar beets--these are not products you buy as whole foods in a grocery store. The fact is, there's not a lot of monetary payoff in the agricultural research train to justify genetically modifying strawberries.
     
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  13. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted Donor

    Mexico. Which usually has pretty damn awesome strawberries. I was reading more about how they're having to modify some crops for drought resistance based on the climate change that apparently isn't happening. For realz. Strawberries grow in greenhouse settings, too. dammit! I'd rather have a smaller, sweeter berry but people are obsessed with these big old honking things.
     
  14. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    Large City, TX
    The grocery stores here carry whole beets, not sure if they're sugar.
     
  15. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member Donor

    Sugar beets are an entirely different beast than regular beets you buy as produce. They're only grown to make sugar. They're not for eating.
     
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  16. wye

    wye Getting Tilted

    Bt crops are genetically engineered to biosynthesize the insecticidal protein originally isolated from a certain soil bacterium. The plants don't create bacteria; they merely contain an extra protein that wards off insects, just like how the chemical compounds that cause apples to brown protect the wounded fruit from infection.

    The Bt insecticide you purchased from the garden store is toxic only to certain types insects that act as plant pests. It's harmless to humans and all other mammals, and because it consists entirely of naturally-occurring bacteria, it's permitted and commonly used for agriculture certified as USDA Organic. The Bt bacteria that you spray on a plant doesn't make any genetic changes to that plant, either.

    The factors you list in your second paragraph aren't unique to modern GM crops. Proprietary plant breeds have been patented under US law since the 1930s, and growers have long turned to plant breeders for new seeds each season due to a property of hybrids called heterosis, which translates to lower yield in the offspring of two genetically identical plants than in the offspring of two different breeds of plants.
     
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  17. roybruce

    roybruce New Member

    Location:
    United States
    I'm a corporate shill!
     
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  18. wye

    wye Getting Tilted

    It's nice that this beverage manufacturer is supportive of reasoned discussion on this topic, yet their products feature labels that stigmatize biotechnology in order to increase profitability at the expense of accurately informing the public about how modern plant breeding poses less risk to consumers than conventional plant breeding (yet is feared more). If this is important to you, why are you shilling for a fear-mongering product?

    Also, please note that not all genetically modified organisms are transgenic, as you describe. For instance, by manipulating genetic material found in conventional potatoes, the recently FDA-approved "innate potatoes" were engineered to resist blight, bruising, and browning—and to reduce the amount of a probable human carcinogen which is produced when conventional potatoes are cooked.
     
  19. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Second offense.
     
  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    no worries