I have never seen a gun kill anybody.

seven round clips are for "safety" will law enforcement be limited to these as well? Also sponsors of bills in either party should know what they are talking about. Clearly they do not.
Denver Dem has Akin Moment on Guns | Fox News She does not even know what a magazine is but feels we should outlaw large-capacity magazines.
http://www.uticaod.com/latestnews/x2082715980/NY-to-reverse-ban-on-magazine-size-in-gun-law#axzz2YLA0yxiu Requires 7 round clips, yet nobody makes 7 round clips. Again they have no idea what they are doing. They have a viewpoint, they consider no other, won't even research their own theory, but you are a crazy nut if you disagree or question them.
According to the FBI’s annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outpaces the number of murders committed with a rifle (http://www.prisonplanet.com/more-people-killed-with-hammers-and-clubs-than-rifles.html).
Depending on where you live, you are more likely to be killed by your TV than guns and/or violent video games. Well, unless you are playing a violent video game when the TV falls on you. (http://www.hardocp.com/news/2013/02/12/your_tv_going_to_kill_you#.UdkSU4Io6Uk) Gun control is less about safety than expanding control and reducing your ability or likely hood of resisting "authority". They do not enforce the current laws. Having them gives them the option to, currently enforcement does not equate to more power. So make more.

Brazil soccer referee killed during match; his head displayed on stake midfield- No guna involved.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/07/brazil-soccer-referee-killed-during-match-his-head-displayed-on-stake-midfield/?intcmp=HPBucket
Very strict gun and ammunition control in Brazil by the way.
Don't Make Brazil's Gun Rights Loss Be America's Future | Human Events
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compare/18/number_of_gun_homicides/26,113,194

Rampage at a Texas college 14 stabbed. No guns involved.
Dylan Quick, Lone Star Community College Stabbing Suspect, Due In Court

Of course we all know about nine eleven. None of the highjackers had guns.

Akihabara massacre: “an hit a crowd with a truck, eventually killing three people and injuring two; he then stabbed at least 12 people using a dagger, killing four people and injuring eight.” No guns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre .

Osaka schoolmassacre: entered the schoolarmed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre

Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing: stabbed 24 people, including 23 children and an elderly woman “Due strict gun control laws in China, knives are usually the weapon of choice in violent crimes.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing
Guns are not the problem. I have never seen a gun kill anybody. Let’s say I was to place my gun on my nightstand. When I get up tomorrow I guarantee it will not have killed anyone. Now if an intruder were to break in, I would kill him. Perhaps I would use my gun, but the gun does nothing by itself.

 

Hey, bandit75238. Welcome to the most-gnarly Tilted Forum Project.

This thread needs to be aborted and redone in the proper format.

1. Post an article/idea, 2. post supporting links, 3. post your thoughts.

There are many, many solid examples to choose from as a template.

Nobody is going to read and comment on this copy-pasta vomit.

That and the TFP user base is, generally speaking, pretty anti-gun.

...

I, myself, tend to think that a lot of gun owners are dickless, untrained 'tards that clutch their pistol in their sweaty hand like a magical talisman / cock replacement to keep away the modern boogeyman that is the Dangerous Male Racial Minority.

 

I feel that guns alone, without human interaction are not evil. That being said not only would outlawing guns violate the constitution, but elsewhere when this has been done it tends to result in the loons keeping their guns, and those that abide by the law are left at the mercy of those still in possession of them. In addition I have found instances where legislation is put forth involving guns by people that have little to no idea regarding the subject matter. See Rep Diana DeGette http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/04/denver-dem-has-akin-moment-on-guns/ She does not even know what a magazine is but feels we should outlaw large-capacity magazines.
Or
NY to reverse ban on magazine size in gun law - http://www.uticaod.com/latestnews/x2082715980/NY-to-reverse-ban-on-magazine-size-in-gun-law#axzz2YLA0yxiu
Requires 7 round clips, yet nobody makes 7 round clips. Again they have no idea what they are doing.
Violent individuals do not need to have guns produce death and destruction. Statistics show there are plenty of things that kill more people each year than guns. According to the FBI’s annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outpaces the number of murders committed with a rifle (http://www.prisonplanet.com/more-people-killed-with-hammers-and-clubs-than-rifles.html).
Depending on where you live, you are more likely to be killed by your TV than guns and/or violent video games. Well, unless you are playing a violent video game when the TV falls on you. This one I do not take seriously, but..(http://www.hardocp.com/news/2013/02/12/your_tv_going_to_kill_you#.UdkSU4Io6Uk)

And here are many examples of atrocious acts committed without a gun.


Brazil soccer referee killed during match; his head displayed on stake midfield- No guns involved.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/07/brazil-soccer-referee-killed-during-match-his-head-displayed-on-stake-midfield/?intcmp=HPBucket
Very strict gun and ammunition control in Brazil by the way.
Don't Make Brazil's Gun Rights Loss Be America's Future | Human Events
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compare/18/number_of_gun_homicides/26,113,194

Rampage at a Texas college 14 stabbed. No guns involved.
Dylan Quick, Lone Star Community College Stabbing Suspect, Due In Court

Of course we all know about nine eleven. None of the highjackers had guns.

Akihabara massacre: “an hit a crowd with a truck, eventually killing three people and injuring two; he then stabbed at least 12 people using a dagger, killing four people and injuring eight.” No guns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre .

Osaka schoolmassacre: entered the schoolarmed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre

Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing: stabbed 24 people, including 23 children and an elderly woman “Due strict gun control laws in China, knives are usually the weapon of choice in violent crimes.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing
Guns are not the problem. I have never seen a gun kill anybody. Let’s say I was to place my gun on my nightstand. When I get up tomorrow I guarantee it will not have killed anyone. Now if an intruder were to break in, I would kill him. Perhaps I would use my gun, but the gun does nothing by itself.
Perhaps training should be a requirement along with background checks.

 

I have come across another instance of legislators not understanding, it would seem, what they are trying to effect. When a presentation was presented explaining that the bill only effects the weapon's cosmetics and has no effect on its lethality or performance, the legislators left.
MN Democrats Abandon ‘National Conversation’ on Guns — Literally
PJ Media » MN Democrats Abandon ‘National Conversation’ on Guns — Literally
Author of gun and ammunition bills misses much of testimony
Author of gun and ammunition bills misses much of testimony | Hot Dish Politics | StarTribune.com
Legislator skips two-day hearing on her own gun-control bills

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3-q9XV_oUo


And I came across a young lady that explains why she feels the type of gun control that is being proposed at this time, would be ineffective, in addition to resulting in her lose of a college scholarship.

15 year old girl leaves anti-gun politicians speechless

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_-N9_tnWBo

 

Is the lack of any response due to being wrong, being right, being absurd, or being in the wrong forum? Should this be in the political forum?

 

Personally, I think that the lack of response comes from what Plan9 pointed out - nobody wants to spend the time reading your "copy-pasta vomit". You've made it painful to even read. This thread just sucks. The idea behind it doesn't - necessarily - but it's so hard to get past the godawfulness of your first three posts that I find that I can only hit the "back" button.

This thread, aside from its obviously fatal structural problems, isn't in the right place, as you guessed. Tilted Weapons is strictly for the "mechanical" side of gun discussions, not for the politics of guns. Those discussions go to Politics. I'm not really inclined to move this to Politics since you've done such an awful job of making a thread that anyone is going to want to spend any time reading or responding to.

Since you asked.

Edited to add: here's a good starting point for what we expect from threads. Look under the "thread starting guidelines" portion in the first post. General Rules and Guidelines of TFP 5.0 | The TFP

 

I'll add that this is an old topic that has been debated to death on this board and on it's predecessor. If you've read through all of those discussions and have a specific point to debate, you might see some interest ... or not. There's not a lot of independant thought in your link spam. NRA propaganda is easy enough to find.

 

Did someone say rampage?

 

Hello everybody!=),
Sorry I have been away so long.
I agree that the first posts are ugly looking. I just recently gained the ability to put links into my posts. I was/am still learning how to do this. That and I think the method I was using to try and cope without putting links in, has become a bad habit of sorts.
Anyhow, my basic point was that the way I currently view guns are that it is poor decisions and behavior of those wielding them are the primary problem not the weapon itself. Now I recognize that I maybe incorrect. Also my viewpoint could flip tomorrow depending on life experiences. For example if I was shot or a family member was.
My doctor is from Beirut, that is where he initialy received his degree. He has been in America for around 40 years now. Anyway the following is the way I understood what his outlook is. We were talking the other day and he mentioned how it scares him to think someone may have a concealed weapon. More so if it is open carry. He feels that there is no need that justifies doing so. He also said that the chance statistically of an individual's home being broken into while they are home is so remote it should not be such a big issue as a reason to have a gun. Now he did say he felt that people can do what they want in their home as far as firearms, I took that to mean within the law. He feels that having one at home, is more of a danger, because if a robber sees you with a gun he will most likely use his on you. If you were unarmed he thinks you are more likely to survive, because the robber will just leave when he sees you, or take whatever, and leave. Also he would rather lose everything he owns than take a life. That is something that can't be undone.
Anyway my point is, just by listening to his point of view helps me see things from different perspective which I think is a wonderful thing.

 

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