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People's Revolution 2016 /an opinion

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by oldkid, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. oldkid

    oldkid Vertical

    For anybody who cares: Much of the momentum to voters swinging to Trump has nothing at all to do with Republicans or Democrats. The angry voter is pissed for good reason. Day after day white working voters, we beer drinking guys, see a president elected to atone for slavery and other prejudice, hoping he can work with the Congress to even things out.

    The person we elected pushes for reparations from Whitey in a new way. We will drag this country into the dirt before we will concede bigotry either way is wrong. Look at who he has controlling the Justice Department, and how the only ills in our cities are caused by Democrat building black ghettos and feeding off them, never addressing the causes such as so many black girls will screw anybody to get a kid, and get rampant STDs, STIs, and babies they don't want but for the child support from uncle sugar Democrat. The mothers of these same girls act the same way and have since the time of Lyndon Johnson.

    Both generations sit back and vote in lockstep for Democrats who promise to give them more. In my opinion, no Republican will ever win the bigoted Black vote, Honkey ain't ever giving us nothing. All you have to do is look at the billions poured into black inner cities to rebuild free faclities that the blacks themselves burned down and looted from schools, to stores, to housing and the list goes on. And when they allow thugs from their early teens to maraud their communities, they buy more locks and wait in fear 'til the next government hand-out comes through the mail slot.

    No way do I condemn all the black citizens for how it all happened. My black neighbor is as good a neighbor as any I have. I like her and she always says "Hi". I just wish she would stop calling me Mr Bouchard. I have always called her Eva or Miss Eva, for over 30 years. Her husband used to call me Charlie, and we did get along, though I stayed out of his way when he was drinking.

    This is not the only reason Whitey is pissed off. It's not even the worst of the problems. For many years now, the governing bodies all over this once great country have become so corrupt, bought and sold, feasting on power and wanting more. Right down to corrupt spouses of some of these same slime.

    Now the black population is expected to push a spouse of a corrupt ex president, even though they know she is a pathetic excuse for a citizen, and has learned that some will overlook outright lies as long as they continue to be catered to.

    Look where it got the black population over the last 100 years. Would their grandparents have dreamed of their grandchildren roaming the streets killing each other, because the Democrats failed them so badly.

    Isn't it time we try once more to get Washington cleaned out and start over. I called for this revolution long ago on Facebook. Few, if any, will remember. The time for PC is over. It's time to accept that this society will not prosper again until the revolution is over. Blood is being shed every day because of the Liberal control of society. Much more will need to be shed before all sides and factions agree that enough is enough.

    The Constitution cannot save itself or its promise. The people will need to do it. If the kitchen is full of cockroaches, you got to literally kill them, just as we must figuratively kill off the corrupt of Washington and all governing bodies below before the promise of this nation will be available again.

    I can't control this revolution, but I sure hope the career politicians can't either. I'll not live to see the conclusion of this second revolution, I certainly hope our descendants will.
     
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  2. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    I read enough to suggest that this sort of stupid racist bullshit you wrote might go better on stormfront. They are also a bunch of trolls like yourself. You posted a while ago that this place is boring and that you wish you could delete every one of your posts. Well, no one is keeping you here. But maybe you are too stupid to leave on your own.
    If you come back with a cogent discussion then you are welcome back. But if you continue to spout racist ignorant fox news and infowars memes then go the fuck away. Troll.
     
  3. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    I have locked this thread.
    Please play nice.
     
  4. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    I have moved the thread to Politics and reopened it for discussion.

    Oldkid has told me he will welcome a civil debate. Please engage him respectfully, without personal attacks.
     
  5. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    Can't do it ... sorry.

    The concept of older white male Christians as an oppressed class is ridiculous to me.

    Edited to steal a quote from Elizabeth Warren:

     
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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I am a middle-aged+ white male Moderate Democrat who feels that many programs originally started to help level the playing field for minorities (aimed mostly at African-Americans/Blacks when first established) need to be curtailed/reformed and some possibly eliminated....curtailed and possibly eliminated carefully and incrementally.

    This should not, and more importantly would not, be accomplished through a "Whitey" revolution that sweeps Washington clean. All that would do open the door for Vast Majority Anglo Male Rule that would go crazy eliminating every social program for equality, even the ones that need to stay in place as is, or can be still be useful with some reform.

    If you want to make this country great again, curb imported products, bring manufacturing back to the USA. Higher education isn't for everyone, and college degrees don't mean what they once did. Put people to work using their hands again. Make people get off their asses and go to work. If they don't like the job, it would be up to them to obtain the training and/or education to move to a better job. Chronic unemployment and moving from one support program to another would not be an option.

    Butchered and paraphrased:

    "Give a man a fish and he will eat that day. Teach him to fish and he will eat every day."

    "The government helps those who help themselves."

    From the TV program 24--The black presidential candidate is approached by a group (a gang actually) of young black men looking to rob or at least harass him. One of them recognizes him and asks, "If I vote for you, what are you going to do for me?". The candidate responds, "That depends. What have you done for yourself?".
     
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  7. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    I'm a middle-aged white guy whose mother marched for fair housing and grandfather was a member of the NAACP in the 50's.
    Like Stan I find the idea that I am an oppressed class to be so stupid it's hard to write a response but I'll do my best.

    The amount of money 'pouring' into into 'rebuilding' the inner cities usually goes to gentrification which doesn't help the poor at all.
    It just makes new places for the up and coming (mostly white) to hand out.

    Yes, there is corruption in government but a good portion of that comes out of apathy.
    If you aren't showing up at the polls to vote or running your candidates then you don't deserve to complain.
    The system can be fixed if people want it to be, they just have to get involved, no guns are needed.

    The idea that the black gangs are somehow worse than the Jewish gangs, the Irish gangs, and the Italian gangs of the past is stupid and racist.
    For that matter the Russian and Chinese gangs of today are far more brutal than the black gangs ever where.

    The idea that blacks vote in lockstep with the Democrats because of the 'stuff' the Democrats will give them is also BS.
    Ask any black person and they will tell you it's because the Republicans are racist.
    Or at least that all the racists are Republican.

    I would also like to point out as someone who was raised by socialists and atheists who were also staunch Americans, you really have no idea what you are talking about when you attack the government of this country.
    This country is currently run by a moderate Democrat who is barely liberal and certainly not socialist.
    If Hillary is elected it will be even more conservative.
     
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  8. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    So this thread has been reopened because oldkid claims he wants a civil debate. Does anyone want to address the fact that his entire post is just a bunch of tired old racist tropes dredged up over the past fifty years? I think that needs to be addressed and recognized before any meaningful debate can be initiated. He mischaracterizes entire swaths of society with a few broad brush strokes. I didn't vote for Obama to atone for slavery. I voted for the most competent and intelligent candidate who wanted america to make forward progress. Oldkid refers to black people as "the bigoted black vote" and " the black population" like black people are some homogeneous group. He characterizes that imaginary group as bigots who are waiting from handouts from honkeys. He states that black women are promiscuous and laced with disease and bear children out of wedlock to increase their welfare checks. He talks about an individual black couple to show he isn't racist, but his very example shows his racism. He gets referred to as Mr, but he uses her first name or calls her miss, even though he knows she is married. He says charlie is ok, except when he is drunk, with the implication that blacks get violent and can't hold their liquor.
    He states that billions have been poured into the inner cities, but that blacks just burn it all down.and that's why they can't have nice stuff. He then goes on to state that liberals are the problem and that we need a bloody revolution to stop the bloodshed. That we need to literally kill the cockroaches in the kitchen. So because democracy isn't giving him what he wants, that we need to destroy it all. In other words, he would rather burn down the country and put white people back in power. Starts off complaining about a black president, complains about black people, and then finishes with a plea to kill the cockroaches. Yep, I have it right.
     
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  9. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I think you just did.
     
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  10. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    Annnd... He sent me a PM saying he's done with our community. Thank you. Much easier when we don't have to ban people who behave in a bigoted fashion, and they choose to move along on their own accord.
     
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  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

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    Large City, TX
    I see that oldkid's original post underwent a cleansing; that seriously bothers me.

    The cleansing took place after most people posted their comments; that very seriously bothers me.

    This is the TFP, an adult discussion community. Oldkid's original post wasn't politically correct, but he didn't make any specific threats. It should've been left as it was; if possible it should be restored. Especially since people reading this thread who didn't see his original post might wonder what the fuss is about.

    The editing of his post is big step in the wrong direction for TFP.
     
  12. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    Good riddance,

    The original text was so vile that it really defied polite discussion. A snarky Elizabeth Warren quote was the best I could do.

    In terms of this topic, I'd either put his original text in a spoiler tag or just delete it with the orange mod tag of failure.
    Genuinemommy, you did an admirable job in sanitizing a big steaming pile of shit; but I'd either make it go away or point it out for what it is.
     
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  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    The TFP should not be about sanitizing posts.

    If a post is really unacceptable, and that should be very extreme for this community, delete it. Obviously judgement calls have to be made. IMO while oldkid's rant was objectionable, it didn't cross the line into unacceptably extreme.
     
  14. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    And this sentiment, folks, whilst riding on a wave of populist anger, is why Trump will be president.

    Yes, I'm officially making my prediction: Trump will be president.

    The only hope now is that maybe Republicans will soon no longer control Congress.

    In the end, remember: The rise of neofascism in America didn't happen in a vacuum, nor did it happen overnight. (I mean, when did the word liberal become a pejorative? Even I missed something regarding that.)

    We reap what we sow.
     
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  15. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    Online
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    I only added breaks in the block of text as I moved it to Politics.
    If someone else edited, I am unaware.
     
  16. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    There is a record of the original reported post. I read it through again line by line comparing it to what now exists in the OP.

    The only changes I see are for spacing/paragraphs, no editing of content.
     
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  17. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    Sorry, I didn't think oldkid was capable or interested in cleaning up after himself.The original text was heavily edited.

    F U, too ?

    Here's hoping that sanity prevails.
     
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  18. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Sometimes you don't know how far you can go until you've gone too far.

    Always have hope. Always.
     
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  19. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek

    And it looks like there was no sanitising of posts.

    In my experience, if the post was offensive enough to warrant an edit, it would likely warrant a ban and removal of the post (ie it would be extreme circumstances or spam).
     
  20. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I'm not so sure it is only the black people in the US that want a handout. There are plenty of white trash who live off the government and pop out kids too. Hispanics aren't too far behind them either. Race isn't the issue, it is people who abuse the government programs and don't fix their lives that is the problem.

    But, it is a problem that nobody wants to talk about and come up with a solution to fix. Education, birth control, and abortion help, but unemployment, drugs, lack of opportunity, and crime just bring cities and people back down. Some cities have been able to turn themselves around over time. Others are still problems decades later.