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Puerto Rico's Hell

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by rogue49, Sep 24, 2017.

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  1. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    cynthetiq, Sep 30, 2017
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  2. cynthetiq

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    Who Is Carmen Yulín Cruz, the Puerto Rican Mayor Feuding With Trump?
     
    cynthetiq, Sep 30, 2017
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    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  4. cynthetiq

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    After first tour of Puerto Rico, top general calls damage 'the worst he's ever seen'

    “Sometimes we don’t know what’s going to happen until the storm actually hits, and this is the worst I’ve ever seen,” Buchanan said.

    Buchanan said the worst problems are on the interior of the island. “And it’s because of roads. The roads are not clear on the outside of the island, and we’re slowly working our way in. But we obviously need to get all the roads cleared so we can get supplies to people who desperately need them.”


    View: https://youtu.be/SZTzi9YWNpk
     
    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  5. cynthetiq

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    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  6. cynthetiq

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    More fake news showing the disparity between responses and the timing of the responses.

    To bring some idea as to how slow the response is for the Feds to assist when hurricane Sandy hit NYC October 29, 2012, the national guard did not appear on our streets until November 2, 2012. They didn't distribute food and water until November 3, 2012.

    U.S. response in Puerto Rico pales next to actions after Haiti quake

     
    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    Sad so much bullshit is being thrown around
    When so much needs to be done fast
    And so many need real help and health
     
    rogue49, Oct 1, 2017
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  8. cynthetiq

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    NYFD is collecting hurricane relief goods for PR
    [​IMG]
     
    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    I put my money where my mouth is...
    I donated $100
    To the Fund run by the First Lady of PR (wife of the governor)

    So I know it will go directly to PR (and not admin costs or otherwise)

    I hope others will help where they can.
     
    rogue49, Oct 1, 2017
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  10. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    redravin, Oct 1, 2017
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  11. cynthetiq

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    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  12. cynthetiq

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    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  13. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    I sent a generator via Black Cross and Amazon through this link.
    It works pretty quick and you know what you are sending and that it will get to hard to access locations.
    Shaun King and the American Black Cross Disaster Relief Effort have set this up.

    Your List
     
    redravin, Oct 1, 2017
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  14. cynthetiq

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    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  15. Joelski

    Joelski Vertical

    What did you do for fema, rogue? Were you immunized, weaponized and debriefed on day two? Did you live in poop soup for weeks praying you wouldn't contract necrotizing fasciitis and wake up a quad amp? What was your job because I'll tell ya, ain't shit happens for 48-72 hours before people decide on their own they need help. When you tip the spear, you're fodder to gauge what kind of initial force to send in.

    Everybody perceives their emergency as life threatening. We live in a society of people who expect others to take responsibility for feeding and clothing them and making sure all their needs are met and when that doesn't happen as it should the caretakers are heartless. It's been that way since the new deal.

    I don't mean to say there are no people just needing a little boost, that's honorable, but how many people for how long have ignored the infrastructure on Puerto Rico? Why hasn't the bottomless pit of cash been tapped to fix that shit before now and why is Trump getting shit see when those very agencies like FEMA, DHS, Health & Human services are in place to advise? Doesn't seem that lifting a ban would fit more ships into jam packed harbors. Nobody can take some ownership and pitch in? Don't slag the president, fire those controllers. Any rescuer can only take so much "come do it for me" and watch people sit on the porch and bitch their fortune isn't improving fast enough. The difference is one group is willing to help, working side-by-side with the less fortunate while others do it for them, while feeling sorry for them (on camera for the media) and using them as political pawns.
     
    Joelski, Oct 1, 2017
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  16. cynthetiq

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    Really?

    Elderly can go south in less than 24 hours. 48 they can start shitting in the hallway because toilets don't flush anymore.

    Can't breathe because you got no power to your oxygen generator? Oh right @Joelski says you are worrying too early, you still got another 24-48 hours to go before you should even think about needing help.


    View: https://mobile.twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/912673877737820160
     
    cynthetiq, Oct 1, 2017
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  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    Ok, sir...you're being contrary just to be so, IMHO (and exaggerating a point, as a bonus)
    HOWEVER...I will answer your questions sincerely and straight-forward (as honest as I'm allowed, because I follow the law)

    1. When worked with FEMA (I was a contractor SME), I was not on the front-lines, I was up at Mt. Weather (noted on my resume, so not on the "secret" side)
    And I was the advanced database replication specialist in charge of updating the controls and conflict rules...for the process between each of the established 13 different regions of the US.
    These regions are for emergencies/contingencies if any or multiple are impacted by Nature, War or otherwise...so the remainder of the US can function and no info is lost.
    (again, this is not secret and it's been several years...so I'm allowed to confirm this publicly)

    2. Even though I was not in the front lines, I have been in other situations and events. I have dealt with crisis scenarios and have done volunteer work (in person) for Americorp, CNCS and more entities and emergencies and non-profits. I was Director of Charities for my national fraternity.

    3. I have been personally impacted by several different natural and man-made crises...including Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Fires, Floods, Earthquakes and more. (I think the only ones I haven't experienced directly is Tidal Waves and Volcanoes...but I could be wrong...hell, I've even experienced -40 degree cold...and dealt with it)

    All of this is NOT an exaggeration and this IS the truth.
    Does this satisfy your qualifications for someone to argue that the situation is "all fucked up"
    AND the administration is going around with their heads up their asses...or at least having a piss poor attitude with incredibly heartless public communications (and YES, this includes your guy, Trump)

    Not that I've got a chip on my shoulder. :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2017
    rogue49, Oct 2, 2017
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  18. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    I went through the 1964 Earthquake here in Alaska.
    Granted I was a little kid so my perspective was a little skewed but as horrible as that was, it seems like we had help much faster.
     
    redravin, Oct 2, 2017
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  19. cynthetiq

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    Trump to Puerto Rico: your hurricane isn’t a "real catastrophe" like Katrina

     
    cynthetiq, Oct 3, 2017
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

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    FEMA has yet to authorize full disaster help for Puerto Rico

    But of course...:mad:
    And he's blaming PR for the "financial burden" too...

    View: https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/915248547859066885?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark


    Meanwhile he's proposing a trillion dollar tax boondoggle to get a few more billion each year. :rolleyes:

    Nope, no money to waste...
    I guess people forget how much the US owed after WWII. (our debt own in comparison to the GDP, is not even close)
    I think we're good for it.
    So this is just BS and just digging into the wound. "Does that hurt when I do this??"
     
    rogue49, Oct 3, 2017
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