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Politics The 2024 US Presidential Election

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by ASU2003, Jun 7, 2023.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  5. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  6. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Looks more like the GOP is going to have Chump for their chump.
    And they're bunch of chumps for choosing him. :rolleyes:

    And we'll be chumps if he wins the general election. :eek:

    Hope the US is better than that.
    And this is surreal. :confused:

    And the US justice system sux. :oops:

    Boy do we have holes and gaps. :(
     
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  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Michigan Democrats send message to Biden, with thousands voting for ‘uncommitted’ in primary

    Yes, but the article states this always happens, with a certain percent voting uncommitted.
    Even Obama got it...and he skipped Michigan in one of his elections.
    That being said, 80's is respectful, considering.

    I'm sure there are many who'll like to twist this.

    Mostly it's a protest vote, to make a voice against Biden's Israel policy...but not him as president.

    Chump is losing even more, saying they won't vote for him.
     
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  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Haley ends Trump's undefeated run with victory in DC primary — Fox News

    Well, good for her.
    And good for the voters.

    Too bad her own state did her a disservice.

    Frankly, the whole thing has been unfair to her.
    Chump didn’t debate once

    The GOP is essentially crowning Chump

    Wish it was “fair & balanced” :rolleyes:

    Well, at least it will piss him off.
    Who knows what will come out of his mouth.

    She’s being fairly brave.
     
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  10. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I'm quoting these from the general Trump thread.

     
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  11. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    About Super Tuesday and the previous primary contests
    Biden is doing better than Chump.

    I would expect, if you're "running away" in a contest,
    You'd get most 90% like Biden...not 60% 0r 70% like Mr. T

    There's quite a few people in the GOP that don't like him.
     
  12. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Warning: Lame attempt at humor ahead.

    Not according to
    The New York Times!
    :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:
     
  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Now it's going to be months of seeing who screws up more... :rolleyes:
    No policy, no ideas
    Just headlines of gotcha journalism.

    Hopefully Biden lasts
    Hopefully Chump implodes

    ** at least she didn’t endorse him
     
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  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  16. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    We'll see, Chump is full of BS and he's notorious for flipping at the last moment.
     
  17. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    That's one of the reasons why the Biden camp should've been ready to
    quickly/immediately call his bluff.

    Name some dates. Make some of them conflict with NPD Trump's court dates. Call him out, "Put up or shut up."
     
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  18. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Polls overestimated Trump in the primary. Don’t expect that to translate to November. — POLITICO

    Lies, damned lies and statistics…

    The pollsters are negligently skewing results to support a narrative, not reality.

    Who they’re connecting to
    What questions they’re asking
    What they’re filtering
    What they’re presenting

    In the end, it’s a business
    And potentially a corrupt one at that.
    But mostly not nefarious but unwise polling

    The narrative, which the media re-enforces
    1. Biden old
    2. Chump over the top but unstoppable

    Simple but it sells headlines and ads.

    Reality is Biden done much more than people give him credit for
    And is much more capable (despite simple verbal gymnastics along the volume of speeches)

    Chump is much more unstable and incapable and legally vulnerable
    And they ignore his gibberish because “that’s just him”

    A full double standard.
    And they’re actually surprised when things oppose their narrative.

    Polls too, the numbers are wrong.

    Problem for Biden is this…
    People are pissed and burdened, inflation and the greed for profit and fees are hurting most of the public
    They’re looking for someone to blame and change.

    Problem with Chump is this…
    He’s not an alternative, he’d make it worse
    Catering to those that want to increase profits and skew laws to protect businesses not the public
    Plus he’d damage the federal government
    If not kill it, with corruption and tyranny.

    So hopefully the media turns the narrative
    And the polls start asking better questions and sources.
    BTW, most do NOT take time to answer polls, they’re annoying and people have busy lives.
    So particular type of people, much less than the whole, answer polls.

    I also hope that are not self-fulfilling incredible destruction.
    A “Comey” scenario, screwing with the election.

    Fortunately, people have started to see Chump for his failures and faults, and are uncomfortable with him
    Question is, is it enough to counter their anger, frustration and using Biden as a scapegoat for the whole poor actions of Congress and the system altogether.

    People irrationally think one person does it all.
    Sorry, they can’t cure it, only influence it.

    Polls have shown polls are often wrong.
     
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  19. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I wish I could agree twice.

    A few thoughts...

    I think MAGA supporters are more likely to participate in polls. A large number of them felt disenfranchised, ignored, & forgotten; they welcome the chance to be "heard." It's possible a large number of them won't recognize questions designed for certain answers.

    The news media isn't likely to emphasize just how wrong their poll numbers are. Their close relationships with independent pollsters influences how (maybe if) they report on the poll numbers after the real votes are counted.
     
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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