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Politics The 4th Estate - Media....is it truth or fiction? TFP pundits will examine.

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Because it plays into their Hunter Biden caterwauling and "Biden's corrupt" mantra.
    They don't care about the source...and he's one of their best manipulators.
    Even if he was in cahoots with China and Iran.

    These days, it's not about Russia, China or other countries are bad...it's party and agenda before everything. Sticking it to the libs and the Dems.
     
  2. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I would have strong reservations about dragging somebody who has serious dirt on me into the spotlight in an attempt to embarrass an opponent.
     
  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Yes, but you have integrity use rational thought about consequences.
    These folk it's all about the spin and weaken the Dems, since they're weak themselves.
     
  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
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    There must be some Repubs thinking, and possibly saying, "This isn't a great idea, it could backfire big time."

    Of course I'm fine with them opening the cage door and getting attacked.
     
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  5. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Nothing I've read or heard justifies the police raid on the offices of the Marion County Record. To call the evidence used to obtain the search warrant weak and insufficient is an understatement (unless some vital info is being withheld).

    https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article278212472.html

    ^ Note: The article has many ads.

    And why aren't we hearing more about the death of the 98 year old co-owner, Joan Meyer?
     
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  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Footage (I'd say partial & heavily edited) of the raid on her home has been released.

    A ridiculously unnecessary raid based on a search warrant that never should've been issued.

    WTF did they think a 98 year old woman was "hiding?"
     
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  8. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  9. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Opinion | If You Want the Public’s Trust, Broadcast the Trump Trials

    On a personal level I want to see it; hearing would be distant yet acceptable option.

    We need to see this. We need to be able to judge the witnesses, judges, prosecutors, etc.

    The down side is the willfully ignorant will see what they want to see. If their pre-determined delusions are challenged it could trigger violent reactions, and violence.

    Show the trials on TV.
     
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  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    What they'll show is how poorly T replies while on the stand.
    The more he is inconsistent and incomprehensible, the better.

    We're not gunning for his supporters, we're looking to harden the independents.
    And scare his GOP allies who are cowardly politicians,
     
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  11. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    [​IMG]

    Exactly
    Start doing your fuckin’ job!

    Stop the false equivalence.
     
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  12. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Rupert Murdoch, creator of Fox News, stepping down as head of News Corp. and Fox Corp. - WTOP News

    Well, that's huge.
    His son taking over is known to be less right-leaning and more supportive of middle of the road perspectives, if not considering progressive.
    However, until RM dies, as chair emeritus, he'll have serious influence...there won't be a radical shift.

    But...Fox is already showing to pull away from the radical stuff and pundits
    Murdoch has rotted the whole tree of the US and other nations in the essence of making more $$$

    I guess something is better than nothing.
    Other radical right media will take on the effort, but they don't have the knack that Murdoch had to build something seriously influential.
     
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  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX

    https://www.salon.com/2023/09/28/donald-thrill-ride-is-nearly-over--but-the-media-wont-let-him-go/

    I don't agree that the press is underreporting NPD Trump's illegal activities, but do agree reporting what he says without challenging in the name of fairness & balance is BS.

    When you must report shit, identify it as shit.

    When you know you're being fed misinformation and/or outright lies don't help spread it.

    Drag the silent consenters into the spotlight. Don't let the quiet politicians who support the liars & the lies remain practically anonymous.

    Report the selective blindness and ass dragging by people who could and should be doing something.
     
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  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    https://www.salon.com/2023/09/28/donald-thrill-ride-is-nearly-over--but-the-media-wont-let-him-go/

    THIS

    The media is part of the problem.
    It isn't that they are cowards though...it's $$$
    They're greedy.
    If it bleeds, it leads...and T is a walking megaphone and says outlandish things. (and the MAGA crazies too)

    Meanwhile the adults in the room get nothing or just puffs of air with brief articles hidden amongst the weeds.

    To give them the benefit of the doubt, they so have to supply a 24/7 international internet driven cycle now.
    BUT...they should still take some responsibility and push "the right thing" and call out LIES. (or at least, don't post BS) :oops:
     
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  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Great minds :rolleyes:...or something :eek:.
     
  16. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    I must be going crazy...I didn't even remember that. :confused: (and I liked it)
    My apologies for the overlap.

    That or all the damn media is starting to blur together.
    I'm going numb. :oops:
     
  17. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    No problem here. You usually bring up some points I didn't, and vice-versa.

    Also the linked x 2 article is a good read.
     
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  18. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    From another thread.


    I'm guessing part of it is magawhiners complaining about the 'disproportionate' amount of negative press re NPD Trump.

    Yes, the reporting certainly is disproportionate because Biden has list of mistakes while NPD Trump has a book of unethical and illegal activities. That's no reason to misrepresent and inflate Biden's actions.
     
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  19. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  20. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    The sooner (noticeable), or later (small piece by small piece) will be interesting to see...but when news is intentionally withheld we don't notice it.

    Edit for interesting note: The WP announcement is (at least the one I sort of briefly saw) behind a pay wall. That says something about the WP.
     
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