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Politics The Donkey in the room...the Democrats today

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by ASU2003, Mar 1, 2015.

  1. boink

    boink Getting Tilted

    How many dead Texans, orphaned Texans would constitute a catastrophe ?
    Haven't paid attention to Texas virus response -checking- death toll is 37,760 so far.
    Pretty fucking catastrophic I'd say.

    Man I remember when Texas was blue. I remember a lady with a big blond beehive.
    But then I didn't pay a lot of attention.
  2. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Large City, TX
    Texas was largely blue, but don't be fooled, our Democrats were fairly conservative. In the battle of The Have Nots vs The Haves, many Texans moved to the other side of the stadium (the football reference for Texas is painfully appropriate).

    The Covid-19 numbers won't have much affect on voters in Texas. In fact, the elected officials who support science and follow medical suggestions will be more vulnerable than those who take the very popular Wait To See What Happens approach.

    I used to debate the definition of ignorance with a friend. He took the definition of lack of knowledge a step further to the the intentional avoidance of knowledge. His interpretation fits Texas voters in general.
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  3. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & don't criticize. Donor

    Large City, TX
    That ^ is a really good read.

    The skeptic in me first said it sounded romanticized and exaggerated, but I have no doubt the collective effort of the various groups definitely helped secure a fair election.
  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member Donor

    Opinion: I was skeptical of Democrats pursuing a second impeachment. I was wrong. (*if you can't get past WAPO paywall, try another browser, the cookie resets)

    The Dems need to keep pressing
    Just to make a record

    While the GOP will let T go
    The Record then can be used against him later
    In politics and law
    Because T will be involved with other suits and so on

    The lawyers and opposition can use this against him.
    And people will remember it more

    Gotta make anything negative stick

    This is a good example why....
    Trump can't hang on to lawyers after false election claims
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2021
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  6. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted Donor

    Where ever I roam
    They were also right in doing the trial now instead of waiting until Spring. A lot of people had moved on it seemed last week, but it doesn't feel like it happened a long time ago this week.
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  7. redux

    redux Very Tilted Donor

    Foggy Bottom
    Congressional Democrats have been moving quickly and aggressively on Biden's "American Rescue Plan" or stimulus 3.0, and will act with or without Republican support in the next few weeks.

    The $1.89 trillion proposal is moving through the House, with nine separate House Committees each writing a piece of the bill relevant to their respective jurisdiction; an approach that will allow the bill to be presented as a "budget reconciliation" bill and effectively block a Republican filibuster in the Senate.

    It includes provisions to help working families (another $1,400 'stimulus' check and extended unemployment benefits through the summer), small businesses (particularly restaurants and the leisure/services sector), funding to help reopen schools safely, for resources to ramp up vaccinations, to help state/local governments facing budget shortfalls as a result of the pandemic and more.

    The most controversial issue is the attempt to include a proposal to increase the federal minimum wage from the current $7.25/hour to $15/hour (incrementally over a period of six years) that will pass in the House version but may not survive the Senate.

    Update last week from Pelosi on the work of those nine committees, all of which have now completed their work:

    The proposals from those nine committees goes to the Budget Committee on Monday to be combined into one bill.

    One minor glitch that will need to be addressed is that the nine separate proposals add up to $1.95 trillion that exceeds the $1.89 trillion ceiling, so either a few cuts need to be made or a few revenue sources (tax increases) added. It should clear the Budget Committee, then onto the Rules Committee for one last approval to be sure it can be voted on as a budget reconciliation bill before it goes to the full House for a vote by Friday, where it will certainly pass. There is even the possibility of some Republican support in the House, given how

    Then, the rest test begins and Bernie Sanders, as Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, will take the lead to move it forward with two obstacles to overcome.

    The first is if the minimum wage provision will pass the "Byrd Rule" test. This is a decision by the Senate Parliamentarian that Bernie cant control but he is confident...

    Sanders 'confident' $15 minimum wage would be allowed via reconciliation

    Assuming approval by the Parliamentarian, Bernie must then convince several Senate Democrats, Joe Manchin of West Virginia and possibly Krysten Sinema from Arizona to support the inclusion of the minimum wage provision. Both have expressed some opposition to raising the minimum wage to $15.

    The outcome is far from certain. If not, the minimum wage increase is dead, but Senate Democrats can still pass the stimulus bill without facing a Republican filibuster.

    The goal is to have the bill on Biden's desk before March 14 when current extended unemployment benefits for 10+ million workers expire.

    This will be a significant achievement for Biden in his first month in office.
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  8. redux

    redux Very Tilted Donor

    Foggy Bottom
    The fate of the Democrat proposal to raise the federal minimum wage to $15/hour (incrementally over five years) is in the hands of an English literature major and the Senate’s first woman parliamentarian...

    For Senate rules arbiter, minimum wage is latest minefield
    As noted in the link in the previous post, Bernie Sanders thinks the provision passes the "Byrd Rule" and she will allow the provision to remain in the stimulus bill when it reaches the Senate next week. I agree.
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  9. redux

    redux Very Tilted Donor

    Foggy Bottom

    View: https://twitter.com/DNCWarRoom/status/1365777625483010067

    A reminder to America's working families of who gave them another stimulus check ($1,400 single/$2,800 couple), extended emergency unemployment insurance for another six months, affordable health insurance if they lost employer insurance, emergency loans for family owned businesses, funding to open schools safely and more to get through the pandemic....

    ...not one Republican.

    More: DNC releases video hitting Republicans on vote against coronavirus relief bill

    The "American Rescue Plan" still must pass the Senate and will likely not include the increase in the minimum wage that is in the House bill.

    Senate Democrats are confident that a Republican filibuster can be blocked and the bill passed and on Biden's desk before current emergency unemployment benefits expire on March 14.
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